Nationwide Revolt Against Dangerous Vaccines Accelerates

Mercury could lead to autism, not all cases though. Mercury is added to reduce germ growth or spoilage in the vaccine. You must understand that scientists experiment with the amount of mercury they add to vaccines.



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This is all up to the parents, if you want to risk your children to autism then vaccinate them, if not then you are risking them for maybe an even deadlier disease.

didn't she also jenny whatever her name that her son go better after she stopped giving him foods with wheatgluten in it hmmm. eureka i just fdigured it out it wasn't her kids shots it was the poisoned wheatgluten from china that made him sick. you think the wheat gluten that was laced
didn't make it to human food chain did you. and fore the person who said there is no law to force you to take vacinations yes there is when i tranferred schools when i was 15 the idiots lost my vacination records and my ass had to get most of them over before i could go to new school it was
the law.

there is the big answer everyone is looking for right there.
things happen and people are born with autism or ms or any number of a million things.

it really bothers me though that parents need to have their kids vaccinated to get into preschoo, BUT is you check that little religious column, your kid is exempt.
what gives?

jazzerman laid it down again, as always...


lets go worst case scenerio, or a bad scenerio.

these shots start to show pretty solid links to autism ok...this is a hypo here.
YOU vaccinate YOUR kid and YOUR kid 'becomes' autistic
YOU don't vaccinate YOUR kid and YOUR kid gets measles, and then MY kid gets it too

wow its about time they revolted, i mean those vacines are just ways tro make you sicker so that you buy more drugs. Also i dont know about the states but here in canada there are these two vacines for hepatitus B that you take in grade 7, and if you refuse to take it, you get suspended from school until you do take it.

the medical system is so corrupt its sickening

There are cases in Indiana where the Child Protection Service has taken kids because of not having vaccinations ,its called child neglect

reply to post by deadcatsrule

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If I may ask, what is your personal opinion on people who do not vaccinate their children because of religious beliefs? Do you feel the government should step in anyway? And what about people who don't vaccinate their children for reasons other than religious beliefs or because they feel it will cause Autism? Is there any time, other than medical reasons, that it's acceptable to refuse vaccination without the government ordering you to do so or even taking your children away? And what reaction is considered "bad" enough to count as a medical reason for not vaccinating?

These questions aren't just for deadcatsrule, I would like to hear from everyone.


Edit to add a question.

[edit on 18-10-2007 by otherhalf]

It seems there is another peice in the puzzle of the children who are adversely effected by the vacination and that is the allergy to milk products that wasn't known before the vacination.

That is what happened to my grandson when he got really sick and dehydrated, lost major weight and was starting to jerk his head and neck in awkward positions for a week after the shots at 9 months.

The doctor said it was an allergy to milk and she changed to soy products (which I hear are 85% genetically modified now) and he got well.

Jenny McCarthy also said her child had to be taken off of milk products and that they discovered some kind of fungus growing in the childs brain.

Wow, I am so upset were not friends Bondock,NOT!!! I do particularly enjoy your posts, and point of view, but who cares?????.Just because I would fight to save the free will of Man I am enemy.I could find alot more sinister person to be enemys with. Mercury is a POISON, what is there to debate? You have the genetics to block autism, many do not. If the vaccines did not contain mercury, or live viruses, I would not argue with vaccines. Do some reserch, you will find many anomolous instances of autism, as well as deaths occuring because of the vaccines. If you dont want someone out there fighting to possibly prevent a issue of autism fine go watch tv or get into yourself more.I have lost the ego therefore I am all about the free will, and untouched mind, to do what you choose. Possibly becoming autistic because of mercury in a shot sounds like a worth thing to fight against. I want to make this crystal clear.I do not care one iota who likes or dislikes me.I have plenty of friends in the real world where things matter, and are truly happening.My ego cannot be damaged because it has left this meaningless shell. Greater good calls and I have answered.The opinion from the Universe is the only opinion that matters to me. Good Luck in the journey and.....
DWT


[edit on 18-10-2007 by dntwastetime]

Maybe the mercury causes the human midn to be passive to all the wrong doings in the world, and that is why we allow bad things to happen with our money?

Where can I get the form to apply for the exemption? I did not want my child to be vaccinated from the moment he was born, but I did not think there was a legal way to avoid it.

Why is the mercury even there? If the mercury was not in the vaccine, I suppose I would not mind. Are there vaccines without mercury? Otherwise, I will go for exemption.

I don't need another parent telling me how to raise my own child. Last I checked, there is noone with smallpox running around in my community. Not necessarily because of the vaccines, but because the vaccines wiped them out from the developed world years ago.

If noone in your city has smallpox, there is no threat to your child from smallpox.

as for MY personal opinion on people that do not do it for religious reasons, i think that is silly/stupid etc...that is MY PERSONAL opinion on it..nothing more silly, imo than doing something for 'religious reasons'...

the gov...i honestly don't know how to answer this...i need to think about it for a good long time.
people are free to worship as they wish. as dumb as i think it is for someone not to vaccinate their kid fo religious reasons, that is their choice. but at the same time, not vaccinating their kid is putting my child at risk.
i think the gov should be out of peoples lives as much as possible. rarely is gov intervention into the family unit good, imo.

what i don't like/understand/agree with is that people HAVE to have their kid vaccinated to enter school, UNLESS they check the religious box.
i don't get why they should be able to get by on this..
i, as an atheist vaccinated my child, but that said, why can i not click another box that says (enter choice words here) and have my kid be exempt as well?
i am trying to wrap my head around it.

for reasons other than religion? again, i think it should be up to the parents on how they vaccinate their kids but then we have the issue of kids not being vaccinated mingling with other kids...

i just have a lot of 'don't knows' i guess but those are my honest answers.

i have no answer for the last two.

this is where i start to argue with myself. i feel the same way. i don't want anyone telling me how to raise my child. at the same time, i do think these vaccines are a good thing. how can i step up and say that other people should?
i don't see how it can be law but you can be exempt if it is against your religion.
this is tough man.

make people vaccinate their kids or let them choose.

in the end, i have to go with freedom of choice....parents need to choose..

see, but we are talking about diseases here...
in the end, for now, i have to go with we need to have our freedom of choice, even if i personally don't like the choices...


thats what it's supposed to be about...

Well I definetly going to try and have this done before he goes to school.

Here is the infromation I have gathered for Florida exemptions.
www.vaclib.org...
www.know-vaccines.org...


I mean when the medicine being used has this waring:


Well, it is too late for that, thankfully my child did not die.

In any case, if you are an athiest, and depending on what state you live in, you can get an exemption based on philosophical grounds, and not religious. Me personally, I would rather get a philosophical exemption than a religious one, but then again I have no other choice, and doing so would not conflict with my beliefs anyhow.

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look, the issue is manyfold, the FDA (and similar alphabet soup organisations) do not appear to be honest after even casual research.

a prime example would be the banning of benign substances like Tryptophan (click) or Stevia, while approving tons of synthetic drugs which lead to more deaths than you can possibly imagine.

enter Autism and brain damage:

it's (un?)fortunate that animal experiments go a long way towards establishing credibility of many 'kooky' vaccine sceptics,

www.medicalnewstoday.com...

add into the mix the recent problem with a HPV vaccine (Gardasil), which had already knocked more than 300 girls out cold shortly after introduction, see

www.news-medical.net...



.. and you've got people wondering, obviously. especially the mention of 'neurological signs' will ring a few bells.

one thing is certain, though, givng shots to babies is negligent, at best. contrary to mainstream ideology there are frequent side effects AND vaccines aren't foolproof in terms of protection, because nothing is. the downside of the ideological firewall is of course a distinct lack of data (correct me if i'm wrong), especially trustworthy data... which, in a nutshell, means that you'll no longer die of, say, tetanus, at least statistically speaking, rather some fancy 'superbug', because you were vaccinated, weren't you?!

statistics, as we know are often used to convince people, for the simple reason that they require enormous effort in the data processing department, which laymen are unlikely to have - or better yet, were. today's tools make independant compilations viable, therefore breaking the monopoly in cases where data can be obtained, somehow.

haloboyle.blogspot.com...

the last resort would of course be to invalidate the results, which is partly justified, because, without peeking at the underlying set of raw data, there's no way to tell how accurate statistics really are, something which applies to both, professional and improvised samples, though.

PS: posting images for shock value does not make your argument any stronger, the same could be done with pics and videos of autists, both mean nothing to the discussion at hand, of course. perhaps, boycotting vaccines altogether is a knee-jerk reaction, maybe a more relaxed stance would have been preferrable, but people have no reason to blindly trust when their personal experience indicates that something is wrong. cases of babies dying after getting shots, or regressing, all the while screaming at the top of their lungs will be considered anecdotal, as long as noone really bothers to investigate, but then, these authorities claim to find no evidence that free oxygen (O3, H2O2, etc) is useful at _any_ concentration, mind you, depsite ample evidence dating back to WW1 to the contrary - for the record, oxygen does not react in pairs, so we all generate free oxygen at all times.

may i ask how your vaccinated child would acquire a disease s/he has been inoculated against? if you believed that vaccines had reasonable effectiveness (say, 90%) you would not care all that much, would you?

if the figure was closer to 50%, though, the real question would have to be whether you'd buy any other commodity with such a record.

reply to post by Unit541

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I have a perfect right.

People in the modern world don't see this stuff anymore exactly BECAUSE we have vaccinations.

If people are going to tell others not to vaccinate their kids, then they have to show what happens if they don't.

Seems to me the pictures cut a little close to home. Seeing those children suffer is horrible, isn't it? Absolutely appalling.

And that's what people who say "don't vaccinate" want to do to children. Make them suffer, just like that.

If people are going to say something irresponsible and ignorant, it is my duty as a person who knows better to show them the truth.

I'm reading the Little House on the Prairie series to my daughter right now. One of the characters goes blind from scarlet fever. The whole family is debilitated to the point where they can barely feed themselves for months, and they would have died if a neighbor hadn't found them and alerted the traveling doctor.

We have it so good now, we don't have to watch our babies die of this anymore:

YouTube Link

{edit to add: That's whooping cough, pertussis. Another completely preventable disease. I'd rather watch my baby have a low grade fever for 24 hours and then be fine, than go through this.}

I have MORE than the right to tell people about this -- it's my duty as a person who understands just what is at stake to do so.

Everybody who has had cancer has eaten bread! Bread must cause cancer!

Everybody who's ever breathed has died! Breathing must cause death!

I find it utterly amusing that when I deny ignorance and actually show people what happens when kids don't get vaccines, I'm told I don't have the right.

As a parent, I have the right. and you have the right to bury your head in the sand and not read my posts, and then watch your kids die or be crippled by something completely preventable.

[edit on 18-10-2007 by MajorMalfunction]

ah the title should be changed to the "Revolt of the uninformed".

The no vaccines crowd seem to foget or ignore the salient points:

1) The autism rates in EU countries. The dreaded additive has been absent for some time. Where is the dramatic drop in rates for autism?

2) Recent research. Thimerisol showed no neurological changes. A separate Autism study is due next year

3) The additive has been taken out of many vaccines (whats your excuse going to be now?)

4) Military children: Vaccinated above and beyond the general population. Hence by the no vaccine crowds logic, they SHOULD have higher rates no? But please show me the literature that shows this.

5) The criteria for Autism has changed dramaticaly. Hence more kids on the margins get the diagnosis.

But hey, lets continue with the fear mongering and the richeous "not my child" rather than be objective.

Ive said it once Ive said it again: If you do not want to immunize your child then you need to home school your child and be responsible for the cost of caring for them when they get sick from one of these preventable diseases

I do not trust any type of medication. I do not even take advil for a simple headache. I do not drink alcohol either, I know that that is irrelevant, but i do not believe in putting anything 'bad' into your body. I do not see the need to put into my body, a substance that has more side affects then benefits. THese side affects often call for more exotic medications, it is all about the money. DO NOT TRUST THEM, or atleast do so at your own risk knowing full well the consequences. These ppl want to make money off you. They do not care, there for they cannot be trusted, especially when it comes to illnesses. I stick to all natural herbs, and I must say, it works, I am quite healthy.

ok ... here is the million dollar question ...


how is someone not vaccinating their kid putting your kid at risk if you vaccinated them?


Are you saying the vaccinations don't work? If not, then it wouldn't matter any way. If they work, it doesn't matter if the other kid didn't have theirs ...


If it doesn't work, then, you are putting mercury in your child's veins for nothing. If mercury isn't that bad, then, why is that little drop of vapor from fluorescents so worrisome when one breaks?


I see a lot of contradictions.

Let me say this. I had no seizures prior to my vaccinations as a child ... shortly after I become epileptic. I was developing normal before the shots ... I changed after them ... showing signs of autism, and, I test positve for asperger's syndrome (a mild autism) in all the ones I take.

I don't care if you all don't see the correlation, I feel it personally. Though, I can say I never had smallpox or any other major disease ... never knew anyone who has.

If you are going to support vaccinations, at least VERIFY it DOES NOT have MERCURY ... for the sake of your child. If you must do it, pay the extra for clean shots. Otherwise, you can do nothing but blame yourself. You know about it now, so do what is right for the child. Don't be negligent because of a few extra dollars. Spend it to ensure you don't put poison into your child's veins.


See, I support your choice of giving them ... but NOT your apathy towards the mercury. What if it was trace amounts of lead ... cyanide ... uranium? What would it take for you to care?



I will probably never have kids, but, if I do, I will surely make sure to get vaccinations that contain no poisons ... if it cannot be verified, I will pass. I haven't heard of any outbreaks ... and there are plenty of people who don't do it. Amish aren't flooding the emergency rooms, neither are scientologists.


Protect your child from ALL harm. Don't casually accept it. What if they told you ... we can prevent your child from ever having AIDS ... all we have to do is cut out their tongue ... or a vaccine for cancer, but it just takes away their ability to question authority ... Well ... they can guarantee you child will never be emotionally hurt, just a simple procedure ... lobotomy.


I can't believe someone resorted to shock value photos. I don't think anyone argued on how horrible the diseases are. Makes you kind of sick to think the Europeans intentionally infected native americans with blankets laced with such a disease to kill them off.



So, to end it ... DON'T put mercury in your kid's veins ... they are worth the extra money for a quality vaccine ... and if someone chooses to not vaccinate ... well, hope their child never gets a disease ... but last I checked, there wasn't too many cases for quite some time in the states ... so not much to worry about.

and lastly ... let us all hope and/or pray that none of these diseases mutate because of the vaccinations ... for all is lost if so. It will be a major population reducing event with all certainty.

No, not too many people walking around with visable smallpox, but how many people are walking around with Herpes? Fever blisters and herpes and shingles are all forms of the smallpox virus and it lives in the bodies of carriers often unknown until they have an "outbreak".

Has it been eradicated or has it simply transformed itself?

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i thought the fda was supposed to make sure all these drugs were safe------seems like they are doing a poor job of screening for side effects lately-----and that tazer thats supposed to be safe for normal people----they just killed another guy in canada last night with it thats 2- 40 year olds in 1 week-----------they've killed 17 people with it since 2002 in canada alone.i havent seen how many times its been fired at someone in anger------wouldnt supprise me if it was also 17 times .we are just a bunch of guini pigs.