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reply posted on 18-10-2007 @ 03:01 PM by camain
Dudes, and Dudets,

The Superbug is not related to the Chemtrails or nanites if you prefer. THe SupperBug has been around for a while. It was created by piss poor hospital conditions, and over reliance of general antibiotics.

Case in point. Spanky gets sick with strep throught. The idiot doctor orders antibiotics for him. tells him to take it for 2 weeks. Well spanky starts feeling better in 1 week, and stops taking them, not realizing that he only killed off 80% of the virus and his body, namely the weak version of the virus. Well he turns around and gives it to 10 people who each in turn get antibiotics for it. of that 10 people 1 person is an idiot like spanky, and again only kills 80% of them gives it to another 10 people. Eventually, one of these idiots work in a hospital, which is one of the most unsanitary places on earth, and is rampant with people that have weakened immune systems. Whala, no in the 3rd of 4th generation of that particular strep, you have a virus that is 100% stronger then the original, eventually, the antibiotics stop working, so they switch to another, and start the whole process over again. They keep doing this till you get SUPERBUG! Able to be immune to just about anything and ticked off at humanity for killing all its cousins. Thats the reason why it is such a concern. There is no way to treat it, and if you attempt to treat it, and not kill it, you only make it stronger then its previous version. Eventually one of these will mutate to something that is easier to catch, like the common cold, and then we're screwed. That being said take a look on the internet at MRSA and CMRSA, one talks about hospitals mostly, the other though is the scary one making rounds in schools, and resturants.

Cheers though on the info.

Camain


reply posted on 18-10-2007 @ 03:55 PM by stompk
reply to post by camain



Camain, staph is a bacteria, not a virus. Staph is usually only received through a puncture in the skin.

What's bizzare is that it seems to only be occurring at schools, or at least that is the main focus.

I think this is a subtle warning, to those that are on to what going on, so "they" target our kids, just to show "they" can.

Otherwise, it wouldn't just be in schools. Think about all the gyms, in Bedford. But they evacuated all the schools. How do they know it's just the schools with the problem??


reply posted on 18-10-2007 @ 04:50 PM by stompk



reply posted on 18-10-2007 @ 08:50 PM by Redge777
The day before this happened Rush Limbaugh said "we are going after your kids" a disgusting remark targeted at journalist, is this a coincidence?

mediamatters.org...

Could we get some hospital workers in effected areas to validate this is an outbreak, and make sure it is not a hyped false scare. I know antibiotic resistant staff has been around awhile, do we have increased infections reported in family members of students and school workers in near by hospitals?

Need to run down areas of infection also, see if there is a correlation some how. Distribution should be radial if it is random, if targeted there should be some common factors in outbreak areas.

EDIT
I have been looking around, this seems to not be a new outbreak but new reporting of it. The CDC came out with a report
www.local10.com...
And suddenly everyone jumped on board with corporate media talking it up. This may be a scare tactic, or just media following the ball of the report, and it is getting sensationalized. Or there is an increase that is not being reported. This seems to be ongoing not new, only the report from CDC is new.

Oct 16 outbreak in London baby neo-natal unit
news.independent.co.uk...
news.independent.co.uk...
this says that 20 London hospitals had worse levels of the bacteria over the last year
www.dailymail.co.uk...
331 deaths over 2 years in London from bug
www.freerepublic.com...

Ballston Spa Central School District
www.wten.com...

[edit on 18-10-2007 by Redge777]


reply posted on 18-10-2007 @ 09:15 PM by blowfishdl
Originally posted by stompk

Think about it. Chemtrails showed up around 1999. Bird Flu, WNV, showed up around 1999.


No. They showed up WAY before 1999!!!! They began experimenting in the 60's with "coloring of red" to see how far a biological attack fromt he skies would spread (suppossedly) but that was just the beginning.

I think chemtrails are a completely different topic. None of us know what Chemtrails are, but they certainly aren't a biological attack by our own government. Who would do that? It wouldn't benefit anybody!!! Not even Pharmaceutical companies because if it's aluminum oxide then there is no medicine for that!!! You die of poisoning, period from inhaling aluminum oxide.

This is biological warfare from our single celled friends (as oppossed to our multicellular rulers and bodies). It's warfare against antibiotics you fools. We keep using thema nd using thema nd using them and every year theres a new flu shot and new preventive measures.. Why? Because the bacteria we are trying to prevent turn on their "survival of the fittest" genes and evolve to survive against the preventive measure. Thus every year a new flu is formed so the single celled organisms can thrive.

Who does that benefit? Nobody. Even if someone would reap profit from this issue they would eventually die from it themseleves along with the rest of humanity unless the NWO is holding the cure in a vault underneath the ocean (random hidden place by the way).

Please stay on topic! As I have said in the past, including too many unrelated topics into your theories without sufficiant evidence and succifient proof really just provides additional disinformation throughout. Thus bringing us further away from the truth, and thus bringing us further away from the solution to our little problems.

It is to unite which solves problems, power in numbers and power in knowledge. Throwing every conspiracy ever imagined into such a serious topic is embarrassing for those of us who are professionals. In other words, the person who shot JFK, isn't the same person who faked the moon landings. Let's stick to the documents and facts please and thank you.

...and please don't reply to this with a "comeback" reply, I do not mean to insult any of you. I know you are trying very hard, but please try to formulate a logical hypothesis after reading related documentation before posting outragous accusations. We are a strong community, but falling apart because of such antics. Thanks for understanding.


reply posted on 19-10-2007 @ 06:00 AM by stompk
I want to show you something.


She never once thought of lung cancer. She had never smoked. The cancer threat never entered her mind, so she tragically did not take the cough too seriously, she said in one of her last public interviews.

Lung Cancer on the rise for female non-smokers

What did the young man die from because of the "Superbug"? Pneumonia.
Where is the staph found? Nasal passages and lungs.



In the chart above, the method below unknown ways of biological/chemical dispersion is airborne.

How much of the unknown is airborne too?

Why?

If you have to ask why, I suggest you read a few of the threads on this sight. Maybe not all are right on, but there is enough info here to make an informed decision.

History is full of conspiracies, and people who died because they were complacent and didn't question authorities.

Take North Korea for example. The worlds worst human genocide at the moment, and we are not threatening to attack them. Why?

Maybe it's because they don't have any oil.

Bill the Prophet told me that we are like a stuck accellerator in a car.

Like a true prophet, that holds meaning within meaning.

The car needs oil. We need to get our foot off the gas.

What does this have to do with the Superbug?

It's all tied together.

The prophecy in Revelation is happening now.



[edit on 19-10-2007 by stompk]



reply posted on 20-10-2007 @ 02:56 PM by Nerull
The fact of the matter is, staph bacteria (of all strains) is found all over our bodies and we come in contact with it every day. The severity of the infection is primarily linked to it's infection method (like during surgery, when a person's bloodstream is more open than usual) and the strain. Hence why it's extremely important to keep hospitals clean, because this is a very common bacteria.

The problem being addressed by the CDC and being seen on the news frequently, is the MRSA (methicilin-resistant staphylococcus aureus) strain of the staph infection, which is becoming more prevalent and is very resilient. The infections from this are often quite serious, as the body succumbs to the toxins released from the bacteria. It is commonly found in the nose and on the skin, but it has no real path for infecting a person unless there is an open wound for it to seep into. There, it can travel into the bloodstream and spread throughout the whole body, all the while reproducing and releasing toxins; ultimately creating "infection" with some serious problems.

If you look here, you'll find that the MRSA and staph related infections (which is quite a bit, considering it's prevalence in our lives) could overtake AIDS related deaths.
www.cnn.com...

This doesn't have anything to do with chemtrails or whatnot, but the spread of a very serious bacteria over the United States that is very hard to treat. Although medicinal treatment still works in some cases, people who do not finish the prescribed amount are at risk of developing a resistant version, that may spring up again (and possibly kill them). It's extremely important to finish medications all the way through, even if you do feel better. Bacteria can reproduce thousands of times, giving rise to genetic sharing, swapping, or mutation; and if medicine doesn't give a potent enough dosage to the bacteria, they might come back, with a possible resistance to the given medication.

Don't try to blame any of the government or doctors on this, because it's mostly due to the population's stupidity when it comes to any of this. Recently, a coworker of mine developed a serious staph infection on her forehead. She was given medication, and took it; while she felt better, the side effects gave her trouble, so she decided to stop taking it. She began to feel worse a few days later, and the abscess on her forehead grew back, and she began usage of the medicine again until it was gone. If it had become resistant, she probably would've ended up in the hospital, with possibly serious consequences. She didn't understand the severity of what could've happened until I explained that that's how bacteria grow in resistance, and that stopping medication meant for an infection despite feeling better gives rise to these things. Case in point, even if the medication gives side effects (diarrhea in our case) would you rather be dead, and possibly spreading this and causing other cases of it?

And that was here, small Wisconsin town of ~4000. Imagine elsewhere, where the people are just as complacent and ignorant and in higher numbers. Blaming the government, blaming chemtrails and other crap like that. Now you should see why it's growing as it is. Why so many people die of this infection or many others growing in resistance just like staph. I hope some of you at least realize the severity of this situation.

~Thomas

Sources:
en.wikipedia.org...
www.medicinenet.com...
www.gsbs.utmb.edu...


reply posted on 21-10-2007 @ 06:47 AM by stompk
Whether you agree with the Chemtrail poisoning theory or not, the truth is,

I got a baaad feeling about this one.

Superbug creeping up to crisis level


Now I will post a must read. I will tell you that I was an aircraft mechanic in the Navy, and what this guy says is right on. Especially the how mechanics are ranked by what they do.

He claims to work for a major airline, and he accidently found extra tanks in the septic system.
The tanks are attached to a remote control or altitude control sytem, or more likely GPS system with programmed release times, and the contents of the tanks disperse through the static wicks on the aft of the aircraft

The people who do the septic systems are loners, and many times contracted by outside companies.

Scary stuff. It sounds completely plausible to me.

An anonymous email from an aircraft mechanic


[edit on 21-10-2007 by stompk]


reply posted on 22-10-2007 @ 05:31 AM by stompk
Redge, it's not bacteria, it's heavy metals poisoning.

Think about it. They keep saying how these keep mutating.

Like the Bird Flu. How long has that been around?

How come penicillan still works. Hydrogen Peroxide still kills bacteria. Even the superbug, otherwise they would tell you to wash your hands, to try to combat this, right?

No, this is poisoning from Silver Iodide, Aluminum Oxides and other heavy metals.

There is a lab in my home town, built on top of the ski area. It was put there in 1979, when they started experimenting with cloud seeding.

My Dad, healthy as an ox, suddenly got Cancer in 1982, and died.

I had no idea this lab was there for cloud seeding research, until yesterday, when I was reading an article about some kids learning from one of the scientists, so I looked it up.

Storm Peak Laboratory

Now, after and exhaustive search to find what they are sampling for, I found that even this lab, with visits from scientists visiting world wide,

they have two types of particles sampled in the air, that are listed as unknown. Not little bits of it either, but significant amounts, relevant to the other known particles.

The reason for the cloud seeding here? We are at the top of the water chain. From here, both the West Coast and the Plains to the East get water from where I live. That is why I was so alarmed this summer at the pictures of pollution I took at the river.

A reminder.

Now this picture above is from right here, below Storm Peak Lab. Sure looks like Silver Iodide resting on the surface of the water. I had to block the sunlight for it to show up better. Exactly how SI works. Also found yellowish tints. See my website for more pics.

The water from here feeds Utah, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Texas, Kansas. So this poison is at least in your waters!

Now, an alarming graph for you to chew on.
Cloud Seeding in 2006



reply posted on 22-10-2007 @ 04:34 PM by Nerull
Originally posted by stompk
Redge, it's not bacteria, it's heavy metals poisoning.

Think about it. They keep saying how these keep mutating.

Like the Bird Flu. How long has that been around?

How come penicillan still works. Hydrogen Peroxide still kills bacteria. Even the superbug, otherwise they would tell you to wash your hands, to try to combat this, right?

No, this is poisoning from Silver Iodide, Aluminum Oxides and other heavy metals.



Keeping on the topic at hand, I've truncated your post to stick with the microbial related points.

"Bird" flu, or the H5N1 subtype of the flu that is extremely pathogenic and causing the stir, has only been around for about 10 years. It is thought to have originated in birds and was only found in birds, until mutations allowed for suspected bird-human transmission (first cases in 1997). A vaccine is still undergoing testing, but as long as no human-human transmission occurs, we should be relatively good. It probably wouldn't take much though, given the volatility of the virus.

Antibiotics do nothing against viruses. Antivirals are what's used, and those are still in intense research, and are generally much harder to develop and not as effective as antibiotics are for bacterial infections. It's an area still developing, as viruses are quite unusual and resilient.

Penicillin still works because it does, simple as that. Bacteria only grow resistant to it when it's used improperly or by genetic chance. It works by breaking down the cellular wall of the bacteria, of course killing it.

See here:
www.cellsalive.com...

Of course hydrogen peroxide kills bacteria, viruses, or other cells. It's inherent ability to kill cells is because it irreversibly alters the way a protein works in the cell by acting as an oxidizing agent. This means an oxidization reaction occurs with the cell, stripping it of an oxygen causing havoc and ultimately death of the subject. The microbes in question can't live without proteins, after all. Disinfectants of other types also work in different manners, killing all but some types.

See here:
www.merckvetmanual.com.../bc/191800.htm

Not to mention washing your hands is advice seen everywhere on combating spread of disease. It's probably one of the most important things when it comes to stopping the spread of an emergence of staph (or any disease really.)

Also, and probably more relevant to the subject at hand, all of the people who have gotten sick with the MRSA strain of staph have gotten (of course) the symptoms of staph, and have tested positive for the staph infection. You can read about their test methods here:

www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov...

There are no signs of heavy metal poisoning whatsoever (they're quite specific to the metal in question, and I'm not going to list them all), and all of the problems and symptoms can be attributed to the bacterial infection in question. They're doctors, after all. The CDC is chock full of them, constantly researching and finding better ways to inform and protect you and me from our minute enemies. Any biologist, doctor, or anyone with a moderate background in biology is going to tell you it's a bacteria at fault, not some heavy metals in the air. They'd just laugh at you, and I'm not kidding. Try mailing any of this to a professor of biology at a university and he'd probably just roll his eyes or cry in laughter. There's a reason they don't really research this stuff about chemtrails at universities; quite frankly because it's preposterous. It's especially obscene to be pointing the finger at that instead of the real culprit, the well-known and well-documented staph bacteria.

~Thomas







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reply posted on 23-10-2007 @ 05:44 AM by stompk
What I find amazing is the fact that they went into the school to clean the locker rooms right?

Ashton Bonds, the kid that died from the superbug, wasn't even playing football this year.


Many of the infections are being spread in gyms and locker rooms, where athletes – perhaps suffering from cuts or abrasions – share sports equipment. Ashton Bonds played football last year but was not playing this season.

Source


Bonds said she was not familiar with MRSA until Ashton came home from school with a letter about the bacteria.

They sent him home with a note about the superbug??????????????????

And oh, by the way, after he died of this "deadly superbug", they had an open casket funeral.

And when his mother took him to the hospital the first time because he was complaining about a pain in his side, they turned him away, saying he didn't have appendicitis.


reply posted on 23-10-2007 @ 05:58 AM by stompk
reply to post by Nerull



Nerull, I've got an off topic question. I see that you registered in June, yet you just recently made four post, 2 against chemtrails in another forum, and two against my chemtrail theory.

Can you explain this for me?
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