I am confused about one thing here. At the start of your thread you refer to Christians in the third person meaning you are not one. Then you say this in the later post.

As far as Christians, believers, et al, I think the majority of us are likened to the 'scare-crow' affect - up on a block, only to be shot down.

The majority of us???

I think the best thing to do with trolls is to talk past them. In this thread I've tried to do so...I think if OP was expecting a predictable response, on the whole (s)he did not get it.

Personally I'm just tired of being attacked as a Christian and it's usually by people that pull obscure text from the Bible and make some claim. The point is that it's tough enough for me to understand everything in the Bible and I've been a Christian since 1989. It just gets old for people to make assumptions with little or no real experience in translating scripture.

Seems every day on ATS someone is attacking Christianity and I take that quite personally. Seems as long as you attack someone indirectly, anything is fair game but I would rather someone call me every name in the book than to attack my Faith and my God. It just breaks my heart when I see some of the terrible things posted by nonbelievers. We are portrayed as goofs and crackpots by the media and movies and are constantly being pushed to prove this or that. Atheists seem to have a particular preoccupation with Christians and I just can't figure that one out. Maybe it's because deep down they really do want there to be a God, I just don't know.
Unfortunately it's in vogue to single out the Christian and maybe because a Christian is not going to strap on a bomb and blow up a bus full of school children if you upset them.

It's called "Faith" and I just don't feel that it's my job to prove anything to anyone. Yes we sometimes talk about our Faith allot but it's only because we want everyone to be saved. In other words we witness out of love of our fellow man. If someone doesn't want to hear it that's fine I can go on my way. Many people claim that Christians force "Religion" but I just don't see where that is the case.

As I've said, I'm tired of debating my Faith and just would rather people said nothing and went on their way. I am almost to that point and often just abandon a thread because as a Christian I can't even get heard above all the noise. Ask me how my Faith makes me feel or how it has blessed me or anything positive but if you want a debate, I'm finished.

One final note: Please don't assume that "Religion" and "Faith" are both the same thing. I am a Christian but a Christian of Faith not Religion.

Like the wind, God may not be visible but He is there. That is my Faith.


[edit on 17-10-2007 by jbondo]

You're the pot calling the kettle black, buddy.

I'm not a buddy. Female here.

"Those wishing to come before the tribunal must themselves have clean hands". But, don't worry, there's a LOT of tolerance by the mods for anti-religious trollery in here.

Not sure where and how this applies to the topic of this thread.

Just don't troll next time and I'll call it even.

That's the 2nd time you called me that.

I could very easily apply your above quote to YOU.

A blatent attempt at de-railing this thread on your part.

Where is the positive contribution at your end? How have you added to the discussion in a proper way?

Back on topic:

"Why didn't more Christians respond to Dave's latest interview?'

What's your take on this Uber?

Just stepping in to get the thread back on track, which I thought was asking, why didn't more Christians respond to Dave and Johnny.

I saw several people say they don't have a computer microphone, or don't know how to use it. They called me on my telephone. It was a conference call. You don't have to use Skype or your computer.

I can't believe how much infighting is going on between the Christians in this thread after all the talk I get about MY being a thread derailer. Aren't you guys all on the same side? Is this why there was hardly any response to Dave and Johnny?

There will be no atheists on the air with you. Nobody but other Christians. Dave and Johnny will treat anyone on the show with the same professional and humorous courtesy that they did MIMS and I.

Why are so many arguing in this thread instead of taking the Dynamic Duo up on their invitation?

I just don't get it.

Why not more participation?

Because ATS is just a microcosim of the world at large. Christians are on the run everywhere. Fundamentalist Evangelical Christians have given us a black eye and the consequence is the rise of Islam and Fundamentalist Evangelical Atheism.

Any measured Christian knows you really can't discuss it rationally and politely with zealots, so why bother? Live and let live.

[edit on 18/10/2007 by kosmicjack]

Originally posted by kosmicjack
Fundamentalist Evangelical Atheism.

What on earth is that? Aside from a contradiction in terms, that is.

Any measured Christian knows you really can't discuss it rationally and politely with zealots, so why bother? Live and let live.

That's the point -- nobody will be on air but the two hosts and Christians. I won't be there. I've already done my interview and it was wonderful fun. Or are you saying that most Christians are zealots and you guys will all disagree?

Originally posted by kosmicjack

Christians have given us a black eye and the consequence is the rise of Islam and Fundamentalist Evangelical Atheism.

Can someone tell me what this terminology means:

Fundamentalist Evangelical Atheism?

It looks like a show could be done on why Christians wont use there voice.

Originally posted by kosmicjack
Because ATS is just a microcosim of the world at large. Christians are on the run everywhere. Fundamentalist Evangelical Christians have given us a black eye and the consequence is the rise of Islam and Fundamentalist Evangelical Atheism.

I understand your points about Islam and Fundamentalist Evangelical Christians but you have lost me when you refer to Fundamentalist Evangelical Atheism.

Any measured Christian knows you really can't discuss it rationally and politely with zealots, so why bother? Live and let live.

What are you on about ?
Clearly that isnt the case with ATS Mix.



[edit on 18-10-2007 by xpert11]

I think that saying evangelicals are responsible for atheism is giving them too much credit.

I reject all religions, all forms of Christianity, not just evangelical sects.