T.I. the arrested rapper was target of a politically motivated round up!, page 1

Many of you have probably read that TI the rapper was arrested.
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Although I personally do not believe in violence, or the need of owning a weapon personally, I live by the knowledge that simply not having fear and loving thy neighbor is the true victory, I wanted to comment on this.

This is a politically motivated arrest. After Young Buck did "Shorty Lets ride", he was arrested for assault.

TI and some others may be flexing a little muscle against the club and this is a push back to show who is still in charge. As they stand up against the ruling elite. People should stand with them.

I would say people need to stand up for him and let people know this was a way to use laws rarely enforced to target someone who they wanted to make an example of.

Think about it, he wasn't even there at the time of the purchase, the bodyguard was buying the weapons. I believe even though TI is a previous felon, doesn't he have second amendment rights to bear arms? He had guns in his house a right guaranteed by the Constitution.

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OK you are going to say, "but he broke the law" Understand that we have 1000s of laws that are not enforced. This is how tyranny works, if they only enforcing the laws when a person is 'not liked' by authority, we have no justice. Either enforce all laws completely or get rid of the laws, this returns it to justice. Look at all the laws used that are not enforced on college campuses but are then used to keep speakers in trouble. J Edgar Hoover himself advised doing this on drug issues.

From a released J Edgar Hoover document concerning efforts to stop the new left.

5. Since the use of marijuana and other narcotics is widespread among members of the New Left, you should be alert to opportunities to have them arrested by local authorities on drug charges. Any information concerning the fact that individuals have marijuana or are engaging in a narcotics party should be immediately furnished to local authorities and they should be encouraged to take action.

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Stand up and support TI, he is a victim of a political round up. Or else there may be no one left to stand up, when they finally come and kick in your door...

reply to post by justanothergangster

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What happened with the Jenna 6. Basically tell people the truth of the system, people need to make it known this was politically motivated. We also need to make it aware to people constitutional rights of millions of Americans that have past arrest, some targeted, also are having constitutional rights taken away.

He should have the right to defend himself in his own home as guaranteed in the Constitution, but many will disagree to this unless you first show this is a stepping stone to total disarmament as millions are given the felony status, what happens when anyone the government picks out of lets say a protest starts having constitutional rights removed.

The most basic thing is let people know that this was targeted, and we will not stand for selective justice, while blackwater has no accountability, and while the bankers rob us blind, unequal justice is the battle cry, this is only one case that can show the targeted nature of tyranny.

Originally posted by zerotime

I don't get this thread. Who even knows who TI is? Then you got the problem that he tried to buy $21,000 dollars of weapons from an undercover police officer which included machine guns and silencers. I don't see how anyone is going to care about some wantabe rapper thug.

You have illustrated the point of the thread in your comment. He did not buy the weapons, a bodyguard of his did, yet the story fed was that TI tried to buy the weapons. Can I ask why the headlines did not read, A bodyguard working for the rapper TI?

The patterns of injustice start with those who are easiest to discount in a large percentage of the population. His controversial speech makes it easy to single him out as an obvious bad guy. But should not his right to be controversial protect him from targeted investigations? This is a rights and an unequal application of resources issue.
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The employee claims he has purchased a total of nine guns for the rapper himself and a further 17 firearms for others on the star's behalf since he was hired in July.

Look at the truth of the story in this paragraph, compared to how it is being told in the media. This is typical harrasment stuff.

[edit on 16-10-2007 by Redge777]

reply to post by Muppetus Galacticus

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I will try and walk this back down the path of the original intent.

First I am not a felon, so this is not me upset about some personal loss of rights, although that should not matter.

This is not an issue of weather he had the guns, or if that is illegal. To see it just as one case misses the forest. This is a question of first should all people who are free be allowed to have rights, and should targeted justice be allowed.

Felons are not allowed to vote or own guns. Even after being released and off parole. At least 3.3% of the current population has no voting rights, and it is actually much higher since for the rest of their lives felons are stripped of constitutional rights.

Felons can not protect themselves by owning a weapon. This goes against our constitution, once they have served their time, they should regain rights as citizens.

Now you might think it is crazy to want to give felons rights, but think of it this way, the state decides who a felon is. So this allows for disenfranchisement of the population. Our forefathers knew the state would lead to corruption, and that an educated, and even armed population was a deterrent against this. This is not an issue of murderers having guns, this is an issue of people arrested for non violent drug crimes being removed from the role our fore founders wanted them in. A voting population, and one that can protect the citizenry.

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Currently, there are approximately 6.6 million people in the U.S. correctional system. This means that one of every 32 adults are either behind bars or on probation.

And many millions more have convictions from years ago that still take away constitutional rights.

This is a issue of rights, and what it means to have a free society, buck up and handle the risk of a few bad apples possibly getting guns, that is the bravery required to have freedom. Will we see more groups that are those that might first resist tyranny for all our protection be all marked as felons? War protesters? Draft dodgers? The state chose who can own a gun, or even who can vote. Will protesters someday lose there right to vote, lose there right to protect there family?

From the search warrant issued, the 'machine guns' are legal weapons many people have.(although silencers are not) It is TI past felony conviction on non violent drug charges that singles him out for this being illegal.
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The U/C told the CW(bodyguard) that the firearms were not legal to possess without the proper paperwork because they had to be registered

then this occurred

Following the transfer of the machine guns from the U/C(undercover) to the CW(bodyguard), the CW was arrested. After his arrest, the CW agreed to speak with agents. During this and subsequent interviews with the CW, the CW told agents the following. ...(snip)...The CW said he was buying the machine guns for CLIFFORD HARRIS, aka"T.l."

Can any of you agree that part of the conversation with the bodyguard went something like this. "We don't want you, just help us bust TI and we will go easy on you" Targeted justice.

Many people have gun collections, There were many people living at the house, guns could have been other peoples weapons.

So my next point, is why is the media saying they are his guns. He could have given the bodyguard a loan, body guard goes to get guns for his own profit, then gets caught and makes a deal.

The current world of Law and order TV has everyone thinking they are out there just solving crimes, they are also maintaining an agenda.

[edit on 16-10-2007 by Redge777]

[edit on 16-10-2007 by Redge777]

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