Al Gore is wrong on global warming, page 1

At a time when the people of the world are lauding his work as an environmentalist, 1 leading SCIENTIST is laughing at the whole thing.

"ONE of the world's foremost meteorologists has called the theory that helped Al Gore share the Nobel Peace Prize "ridiculous" and the product of "people who don't understand how the atmosphere works".

Dr William Gray, a pioneer in the science of seasonal hurricane forecasts, told a packed lecture hall at the University of North Carolina that humans were not responsible for the warming of the earth.

His comments came on the same day that the Nobel committee honoured Mr Gore for his work in support of the link between humans and global warming."

www.smh.com.au...

He goes on to explain that in certain periods of time, there were many more hurricanes than what are being linked as increases due ot global warming.

Although, his mentioning of the salinity content of the worlds oceans' as being directly related to the number of hurricanes is a new theory to me...I firmly believe we are lying to our youth, as the good doctor goes on to say. Global warming might be going on, but there is no one out there that can PROVE to me it is caused by humans. In fact global warming looks like this........warming, cooling, warming, cooling, warming, cooling.....get the picture??? Cycles, cylces everywhere....Like all cycles, this one too will runout of gas and a new one will begin. Can't wait for all the global cooling theories..... they should be fun!!!!!

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So... Basically all the chemicals we release into the atmosphere on a daily basis from our vehicles, our factories, and from piles of trash people still burn all the time are doing nothing to our atmosphere or the climate. The fact that the poles are melting has nothing to do with what we, as humans, have done to the planet. I agree that the earth goes through cycles of warm and cool periods, thus the ice ages, but to say that what we are doing to our planet on a daily basis has no effect is arrogant. It's like constantly eating fatty foods and then saying that it had no effect on your cholesterol levels.

Originally posted by uv777bk
The debate of whether we are or are not the main cause of global warming is getting truly irritating.

The point, I think, should be what if we are and what if we could have done something about it?

Would it not be worth making some sort of effort for the sake of our children, our children's children, etc... ?

I am so totally with you on this, every single word including the smiley (or is that a frowney?)

Posted this article link before, I'm going to post it again in case some other ATS'er missed it.

Are we asking the wrong questions about global warming?

Public discussion over global warming is often caught in a vortex of misinformation perpetuated by extreme forces who say it’s all just a big hoax.

This often causes the most relevant scientific questions to get lost, suggests Washington state climatologist Philip Mote, who has been working for years to understand climate changes brought about by human activity.

What we should be talking about when we talk about climate change, Mote suggests, is no longer if it is occurring but how and where. Further, what lasting impacts climate change will have upon individual regions like the Pacific Northwest, and most important, what can we do about it"

TraderOnWallSt: This is specifically for you:
Less Than Half of all Published Scientists Endorse Global Warming Theory

Byrd has covered your challenge.

To finish it off, read my sig.

Let me get a kidney shot in here while the crowd is running over Coma's always helpful links.

From my end of the spectrum.

Also, just you know I'm not wasting your time..

Your whopper is doing more harm than your car.

If they're going after the auto and meat industries, I don't really think you can discredit it with one article.

Originally posted by traderonwallst
What I am saying, is WE ARE NOT CAUSING IT. You show me any proof...and I mean any PROOF...that it is caused by humans. Don;t give me the line, we contribute to it, that don't wash with me. Cows do too by farting. Volcanoes contribute a whole hell of alot more than any human does.

Go ahead. Cite your 98%.....then prove to me that we cause it!!!! I dare ya!

There is lots of evidence that humans are contributing to the current warming trend. The IPCC is the place to see it. But it is sufficient to know that CO2 is without question a GHG to understand we make at least some contribution. That's before we take into account other human-sourced impacts.

I'd like to see the evidence that volcanoes produce more GHGs than human do each year, or even over the last 100. Volcanoes produce about 100-200 million tonnes of CO2, a quick search of human emissons will put this into context. This is about 150 times smaller than human CO2.

Or in picture form for the last 100 years:



ABE: I like the problem you have with people pointing out the strawman issue you raise. We are causing warming, we are contributing to warming, we just aren't likely to be causing 100%. I guess we should say 'yah, we are causing 100%' just to provide you a straw-based quarry.

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Originally posted by uv777bk
The debate of whether we are or are not the main cause of global warming is getting truly irritating.

WEll .. buck up. It needs to be discussed so that the truth of the matter may be gotten to.

A guy got an Oscar and the Nobel Peace Prize for pumping out WRONG INFORMATION about global warming.

MORE proof of Al Gore FALSELY getting awards on his global warming crap.

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Hmm. 'Crap' and 'foolish' I'm devastated but I'll try and struggle on. But it's difficult to know where to begin, as I can't find one respected National/International Scientific body which claims that the current warming is entirely a natural cyclical phenomena. So I expect 98% is something of an underestimate, which thankfully means that the number of 'scientists', hacks and loonies in the pockets of vested interests are fewer than I thought. Huzza!

I assume that you accept Co2 does have a role in global warming and that we are producing a hell of a lot of it (1.3 million tonnes annually from N.American car use alone). But you suggest this is of no significance and claim that the forces in-play are part of a natural pattern which will soon reverse itself and everything in the garden will be lovely again. Have a look at the recent Report from The Scripps Institute of Oceanography. Their study is based on surveys of historical ocean temperatures, not air temperature and the oceans capacity to store heat. It's an interesting read and one which effectively removes your comforting picture of all this being a historical and self correcting event. But that's not what you want to hear, is it.

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Want us to reduce all the carbon burning? Let us finish buring all the crap up already. As soon as we are done, we can all live a nice pollutant free life.

Sorry....had to say it....feeling a little evil today

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