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Topic started on 14-10-2007 @ 06:02 AM by Silcone Synapse
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Another UK School To Fingerprint All Pupils.
www.halifaxcourier.co.uk
 IT will be food for fingerprints for pupils in Todmorden after a controversial new method to pay for school dinners was adopted.
The system, introduced at Todmorden High School, takes details of children's fingerprints and allows them to pay for their dinner by touching their
thumb on a screen.
The biometric method is still in its infancy and has sparked nationwide controversy. It was recently introduced at Morley High School, Leeds,
prompting parent protest about putting children's identities at risk. (visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 06:02 AM by Silcone Synapse
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This really is starting to take off here in the UK..
Why on earth this system is needed baffles me completely.
Obviously,its making someone a lot of money and I expect that if the system is not yet linked to the governments identity database,then it soon will
be.
I would personally take my kids out of any school which used this kind of system.Training kids to give fingerprints to receive food is a very
insidious method of training our future generations I think.
I actually think that this has been very carefully thought through by those in power-The kids,at a young impressionable age,will soon learn to
associate the "reward" of food with being a good slave and giving their fingerprints.
It will in their minds make fingerprinting totally acceptable.
A compliant slave is a good slave...
Yes,I have mentioned this topic before,but it just keeps on coming-
Any thoughts people?
Do you agree with this kind of system?
Would you/do you allow your children to be part of such a scheme?
www.halifaxcourier.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 06:05 AM by Rilence
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No way in the world I would allow my child to take part in such a system...Whilst it may be convenient, I just don't trust it...There are so many
places such records could end up, national fingerprint database being one of them...Only those having committed a crime should have their prints on
said database...
A question tho, SS...Are the schools in question public or private school ?
Peace
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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 06:12 AM by Silcone Synapse
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Nice 1 Rilence-
The school in question is a High school,So in the UK they are state run.
I imagine certain private Uk schools (we call them "public" here,strangely)
have or will soon sign up to such schemes.
I have a sneaking suspicion(nothing more yet)that the government is offering big bonuses and extra funding to schools who accept this system.
That way they know most will eventually have to accept,as they all need more money.
Only a guess,but I would bet that is the case.
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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 06:27 AM by andayt
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if this comes to my school they can forget it i think it may have already because a week ago they have installed a change machine you put your money
in it comes out in the change requested no problem but on them you need to place your thumb on the machine aswell to get your change theres about 6
that ive seen so far when i go back tomorrow ill look for some more details towards what else is on them
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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 06:36 AM by Silcone Synapse
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Hey Andy-
See if you can blag the machine by using something other than your thumb on the pad-plastic bag/bit of leather may do it.
That machine sounds real sneaky especially if it does not tell you your print is being taken.
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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 06:37 AM by Rilence
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Ok, so its a state run/financed school...How dare they impose such a system on children and their parents....
And yes SS, I too could easily see how government could come along and say to certain school, "hey, here's a nice increase in your funding to build
that new gym or repair those building which haven't been touched for decades...
Yep, you're spot on with the lack of funding thing...We have a similar situation here in Australia, some government school receive such little
funding compared to the amount of government money private schools get its a joke really...It wouldn't take much for many state schools to agree to
all sorts of stuff in order to get that extra money they usually beg for...
Mad aint the word for it...Fuming...Outraged...The list goes on
Great OP SS 
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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 08:38 AM by spencerjohnstone
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That machine sounds real sneaky especially if it does not tell you your print is being taken.

Another way of the Government, trying to get more I.D. of children from the UK onto their databases, have to remember thousands of childrens DNA are
already on this database, with either the knowledge or consent from parent.
It does not surprise that the Gov, if they are behind me, has the nadasity, to do this. These parents should demand that this should be stopped
immediatly and removed. If not refuse to allow their children from going to that certain school.
Knows two wrongs do not make it right. But it is about hightime, people in this nation turn round and told, the authorities and the Gov, enough is
enough....
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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 08:49 AM by Rilence
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Your right where its at, Spencer...How many things will "your" government, and "my" government and every other government in the western world ask
us to cough up ?
The list never ends...and the reason often seems to be "national security" *cough* or some other similar excuse...
It needs to stop, now...
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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 09:03 AM by R-evolve
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when i was at infant school we had a trip to the local police station, where just for a bit of fun they took all our fingerprints and put them on
little badges for us to wear i always thought it was strange why they had us do 2 copies and kept one themselves. I don't go around commiting crimes
so im not to bothered but looking back i think it was a slightly underhanded thing to do
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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 09:19 AM by Boondock78
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the day my kids school starts using biometrics for anything is the day i pull my kid out.
i already plan to take my kid out early but if the biometrics come out when my kid is in 6th grade, then that will be the end of their formal
education
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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 10:36 AM by Silcone Synapse
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Rilence ,SpencerJS and Boondock-
Very good points folks,glad there are still people left who can see this is ever so slightly totalitarian.
Damn shame this is happening,and a crying shame that the MSM the world over are seeming to depict these sorts of schemes as totally necessary in "the
world in which we now live."
I ask anyone who supports this idea to ask themselves:
Why do all children in the UK suddenly have to be amongst the first group (after criminals)to be fingerprinted?
And why are we told this is necessary now,but it has not been for all time up to this point?
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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 10:49 AM by Rilence
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It really does make you wonder, SS...What SENSIBLE or PRACTICAL reason can there be for the adoption of this ?
To me it seems like closing a loophole...You already have the crims on fingerprints and many of them on DNA...God knows how many of the common folk
you have on DNA...
I know !!!! Lets get as many kids as we can on fingerprints, that way we cover the ones we missed with DNA @ birth...
Scary stuff....
  for the OP, SS  Nice job
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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 10:52 AM by Redge777
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A firm grip on an exhaust pipe of a car idleing will solve the fingerprint issue
OK seriously, I don't like when they start databasing children at such a young age, they don't have concepts of freedom and privacy as a right.
What will happen when they start chipping kids in school...
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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 10:57 AM by Rilence
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Ya sicko Redge !!!!  P Damn that's gotta hurt, but as you said, problem solved...We need to ensure in every country, not only the UK that our kids
are not subjected to this...
I honestly cannot see any so called benefit of this outweighing the probable negatives of this situation...
It is wrong, period...
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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 11:00 AM by Silcone Synapse
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Afraid you got it right there Rilence.
Sad state of affairs indeed.
And you Redge hit the nail on the head-thats exactlly why they are starting with the kids...by the time they are teenagers the concept of freedom will
have been reduced to a bio metric card,or chip which you will need for everything.
Thats what they want-a society totally dependent upon this orwellian bio metric nightmare.Where human life is reduced to a series of 1s and 0s in some
hideous darpanet type mainframe.
You will be assimilated.You belong to the corporate owned world governments now slave-you want water,a doctor,a car,a life-
But thats impossible,you have no bio metrics...Get into prison you sick thought criminal.
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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 11:15 AM by Now_Then
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Originally posted by R-evolve
when i was at infant school we had a trip to the local police station, where just for a bit of fun they took all our fingerprints and put them on
little badges for us to wear i always thought it was strange why they had us do 2 copies and kept one themselves. I don't go around commiting crimes
so im not to bothered but looking back i think it was a slightly underhanded thing to do 
Wow that just unearthed a child hood memory....
I must of been 7 or 8 at the time and I can vaguely remember us all been herded in to a portacabin out side the police station and having our prints
taken.
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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 11:21 AM by Rilence
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At risk of posting a minimal post.....
All I can say is wow ???!!!
That actually happened to you two guys way back ??
I'm outta words....Stunned....
This has to stop now...Parents, dont do it...Please !!!!!!
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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 11:56 AM by Now_Then
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Originally posted by Rilence
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All I can say is wow ???!!!
That actually happened to you two guys way back ??

Yep 100%. I'm 27 now, cant remember exactly how old I was then, gonna ask an old mate who was in my class when I get hold of him see if he
remembers,
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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 12:52 PM by magicmushroom
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This is part of an all out assault on us all being chipped and the worst aprt is all the people who agree with it, I'm sick to death of hearing Oh if
you have nothing to hide whats your problem. Well its not about hiding its about big brother having total control over us.
I can remember the first time I met an Holocaust victim and she shown me the tatooed number on her arm and she told me how every aspect of her whole
existence was controlled by the nazis.
Well I dont want us to go that way, I dont want anyone telling me where I can live what car I can drive, where I can go on holiday, what I can say and
cannot say. this is already happening by slow degrees, stepping stones if you like, a little bad medicine at a time. Well you either live freely or
you live in a dictatorship and I dont know whats worse those that wish it or those that accept it.
The Uk was the 1st modern democracy I dont want it to become the worlds 1st mind controlled state. All those parents have to do is say no, no we do
not agree thats all its takes, civil disobediance does not have to become civil disorder.
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