The Hologram Theory is dead, page 66

yeah, what do we know what ´our NWO-boys´have as their toys?
they laugh at us, but the last laugh..

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Feasibility of Implementing Near-Field Acoustic Holography at Large Scale

Digital Holography
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UNITED STATES AIR FORCE FUTURE WEAPONS PROPOSALS
AIR FORCE 2025 STUDY

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Since this thread ended on a misinformed note, and since No Planer threads are still front and center, bumping this thread is needed. I'm citing myself from about page 2 in which this post alone has all the PHYSICAL PROOF you could ever need to conclude that planes hit the towers...

Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
I'd like to make it even more perilous:

In addition to Robz examples, I'd like to add to that:

1] How did they manage to 'spit' the monster fireballs out the other side with perfect timing?




2] And launch the 'engine' and related debris out with perfect momentum and angles coinciding with the planes speed and impact angles?
Note the smoketrail from the engine:

CLICK THIS ONE:
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It shows the shooting engine in high-res!


When you add those in with my other argument, which I've posted in multiple threads yet not one single person has been able to answer it (be sure to click the first link):

Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
In the first video of interest the cameraman was on W. Broadway, which was right in line with where the the plane debris was ejected from the opposite side of WTC2. At around time 7:00 the impact occurs. You can hear pandemonium and loud noises as if large things are crashing down around him. Then, as he turns back, you can see plane debris that had apparently landed and killed a pedestrian.
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As we've all been covering inother recent threads, other large bits of plane debris were found including a 'still smoking' engine that landed on a street corner not too far from our above cameraman.


While I haven't done an advanced analysis on the raw source video presented above, it does seem to debunk the "MIB Flashy Thing" Theory for how they placed the plane debris on the streets, once and for all.

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It's case closed. But, if you insist...

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Originally posted by Wizard_In_The_Woods
Nothing you’re saying is weakening the hologram theory. It is my understanding that none of the 9-11 films show holograms. Yes, that’s right, the holograms weren’t caught on camera. The images we see are all CGI inserted fakery.

I see nothing can shake your faith in No Planes.

But since you're obviously right, tell me, how in the world could they prevent every 'rogue' citizen with a video camera from capturing it?

Ok, say you're a conspirator: You have to assess how to ensure getting away with your crime: You consider that you might be able to get away with these mumbo jumbo technologies... But there is one problem: If one single civilian just so happened to get a recording showing no plane whatsoever, you're busted. Even a 10 year old would be clever enough to realize that's not the way to go.

You're suggesting that every camera and tape produced from that day is faked. Sinc etey're faking all of these tapes, why not fake the tapes of the video cameras at the Pentagon to "show" a plane, thus "proving" that one hit there? Why release tapes that look more like a missile than a Boeing? And, again to the 50th time, why not also produce some fake NTSB/ec reports to put the icing on their fabricated event?

No Planes is about as real as Aesop Fables.

Ok, I'll be fair, I won't say that it's impossible, however, considering the difficulty in producing the observed effects to 'near' perfection, in conjunction with the decisions they'd have to go thru in consideration of my statement to you above, and so on, I'd say there's a about a 0.002% chance of "No Planes" being what happened.

I think the hologram debate is still much alive...

I've said this over and over again, the "no plane theory" is a distraction from the "no passenger plane theory"

These two videos suggest to me that the planes were not commercial jets

Flash of light, possible explosion, indication not a passenger jet



Guiding beam, suggesting military plane and not a commercial plane



The pentagon hole and the shanksville hole are too small for a passenger plane, that should be obvious.

Thus, no passenger planes were used on 9/11.

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That flash was the result of kinetic energy turning into heat upon collision. Also that is the location of the oxygen tanks on board the plane.

Second: That "laser" is nothing more than a piece of paper fluttering down, and in better quality videos of that same scene, you can see it progress down lower and even "onto" the brown building in the foreground. Military aircraft dont need a laser to fly them towards a building. The pilot can see it just fine.

This was debunked years ago, I'm surprised its STILL coming up as "evidence" of something "sinister".

reply to post by 00FOG00OF00WAR00

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Please tell us what part of September Clues is in your opinion conclusive evidence for no planes.
Check out this video. www.youtube.com...
It's from the new FOIA release from the NIST. This is the raw video from before it was transmitted and recorded on someone's VCR, then gone through further conversion on YouTube.
There is a link there to download the raw video but it is over 500 mega bites and takes a while, even if you have 2 G/sec cable.
The point being, check out the other videos available trough that uploader, and the old stuff used in the old videos like September Clues just do not hold up. That stuff has a certain entertainment value and gets people's curiosity up, which is good, but it does not prove anything.

Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by 00FOG00OF00WAR00

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Please tell us what part of September Clues is in your opinion conclusive evidence for no planes.
Check out this video. www.youtube.com...

Look at the video the guy says theres no plane! he specifically mentions an explosion only! Obvoiusly the plane has been faked onto the video.

This is actually good proof of no planes.

The point being, check out the other videos available trough that uploader, and the old stuff used in the old videos like September Clues just do not hold up. That stuff has a certain entertainment value and gets people's curiosity up, which is good, but it does not prove anything.

But also look at the other datas. Pilots for Truth have shown conclusively that there is no way planes can goa t that speed. Add in the september clues information and only one conclusion is possible. No planes.

reply to post by 00FOG00OF00WAR00

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You should probably go on YouTube and do a search for low fly-by and think about how long you would be able to see a fast moving plane, like if there were obstructions to a full field of view, such as buildings or trees. It would be pretty easy to miss, by maybe a longer than normal eye blink.
I do not put it beyond the realm of possibility that there are fake videos or modified videos, but the main thing that makes a real difference is missing videos.
If someone was to look far enough back on this thread, they would probably find posts by me advocating for holograms. My theory had to do with maybe a device attached to a plane to make it look like a different sort of plane than it was.
People like to put up the argument, "how could they change all the videos people took with hand held cameras?"
I think that is more feasible than doing the hologram thing. I think it is up to ninety something, the videos of the crash on the WTC towers. Some show a plane and some don't. None show a plane more than about thirteen seconds before the crash. Once the plane was close enough, it really doesn't matter and it probably does not need to be modified. So the total videos needing to be changed does not end up being very many. All of the videos we can see on the internet was at some time in the hands of authorities before being released for viewing by the public.
About the speed, watch out for deception when anyone talks about that. There are a few ways to measure speed and one needs to make themselves familiar with the difference between knots and miles per hour. The claimed plane that hit tower two probably could not have been going 520 knots, but it could have been going 520 miles per hour. So pay close attention and don't let anyone confuse you. My calculations which I spent months working on, from videos, puts the speed between 520 and 530 miles per hour. There are other ways where people came up with higher speeds and that was by using radar readings, but those do not pretend to be accurate from an official authority involved in doing that tracking. (dig up the thread Impossible Speed to see my calculation. It is a simplified version, the one I did to check the results was a lot more involved)

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It was alive????

Edit: I hadn't read the last answer. We are in unison though. I know holograms are now cutting edge technology so I was coming to discuss the new developments there but then saw it was a theory that 9/11 planes were actually holograms. I missed that one. I definitely think it was an orchestrated attack and by whom still remains very troublesomely fuzzy.

Funny we are thinking exactly alike. Is that unusual?

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