First Moon Picture from Japanese Orbiter, page 2
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reply posted on 13-10-2007 @ 11:12 PM by Alexander the o.k.
Originally posted by johnlear
I have been looking at this photo from Kaguya. The test (text) says:


A photo from Japan's Kaguya/SELENE moon probe shortly after jettisoning one of two mini-satellites. The western rim Oceanus Procellarum is clearly visible in the image, which was taken on Oct. 5 about 497 miles (800 kilometers) from the Moon. Credit: JAXA




I have looked for the western rim of Oceanus Procellarum which is ‘clearly visible’ and I can’t find it. I can’t even find Oceanus Procellarum.


I agree John. It is not there.
This is some other portion of the moon.
Although I cringe at citing this source, it was easily found and fairly obvious that there is no mare, there. Let alone the "vast lunar mare on the western edge of the near side of Earth's Moon".
en.wikipedia.org...
here is the description of the following pic:
"NASA image PIA00077. This picture of the Moon was taken by the Galileo spacecraft at 6:47 p.m. PST Dec.8, 1990 from a distance of almost 220,000 miles. It shows the dark Oceanus Procellarum in the upper center, with Mare Imbrium above it and the smaller circular Mare Humorum below".

Here is what Oceanus Procellarum looks like from our vantage point here on earth:




Ok so look at the area contained within the green border. It has only a very few craters like Aristarchus, Marius and a couple of others. It does not look like what we are seeing in Kaguya.


Agreed.
It is most definitely not the Oceanus Procellarum or western limb.


Now since all of the craters are not in the Oceanus Procellarum that means that they have to be on the farside.


Please explain how you deduce: Farside. Not clear on that.
I am certain that you are correct, since the far side has few Mare(s), and is heavily cratered, but how can you be sure?
Do you see a recognizable crater?

That being so, then the left end of the terminator has to be north. If the left end of the terminator were south, all of the craters would be in the Oceanus Procellarum which they are not.


Please clarify. Not sure what you mean by "left end of the terminator has to be north".

Assuming you're correct, and I have no argument yet, what would be the point of releasing to the world, a low res photo of another part of the moon (farside) and claiming that it is "the western rim of Oceanus Procellarum" ?
Are we seeing, in your opinion, some sort of leak or clue early in the game?
I just don't get why they would release such an obvious mistake.
do you?


reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 01:10 AM by jra
Originally posted by Alexander the o.k.
what would be the point of releasing to the world, a low res photo of another part of the moon (farside) and claiming that it is "the western rim of Oceanus Procellarum" ?


Did you miss my earlier post that showed the previous photos? You can see the western edge of Oceanus Procellarum in those. Here is the
link again. The photo that is being shown doesn't show it.

I've also matched some of the craters to those that are west of Oceanus Procellarum here.

I just don't get why they would release such an obvious mistake.


I don't believe they have. Everything seems to match up.



reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 03:47 PM by zorgon
Originally posted by scepticsRus First thing that i thought when i opened the page was WOW, that looks like CGI.


LOL I had noticed the same thing and I made this post in the John Lear Moon thread....

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I have a small problem... Maybe John you can help me...

I cannot recognize any locations in these images...




Caption Reads...The upper right dark area is ocean, the west rim of the Oceanus Procellarum (The image was taken around 2:50 p.m. on Oct. 5 (JST) about 1,500 km from the Moon.)



Caption Reads: Almost the same area as the left image, but closer to the Moon (The image was taken around 3:00 p.m. on Oct. 5 (JST) about 1,200 km from the Moon)


Caption Reads: A boundary in the lower left is the line between the area that receives sunshine and the shaded area at around 80 degrees north latitude. It was too dark to observe the North Pole.
(The image was taken around 3:10 p.m. on Oct. 5 (JST) about 800 km from the Moon.)


But I can't seem to line these up with any known features that I am familiar with...

So these images are supposed to be live TV... These captures were taken Oct 5... its the 13th Why does it take so long to show us the video feed? Considering they can obviously take out captures to show us.

And why would they place a camera that has to look through all that junque in the way... junque on which the camera seems focused on hence the 'fuzzy moon images'

And I certainly don't recognize THIS feature...
This is just a 4x enlargement... I certainly hope we get better resolution than THIS I thought the Japanese were good at making Cameras



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