PARA: How Could They Know That? The Dogon Mystery.

Also, the book's got a 16 print photo panel in the middle and graphics/illstrtns throughout. And some hieroglyphic research too. In the intro, not to give much away, he claims the moons of Saturn: Phoebe, Dione and Iapetus are artificial, spaceships that these aquatic beings live within. Here's a sculpture of a Nommo from a print in the book:



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reply to post by NGC2736

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I hear ya, that one sounds great too... like I said, this one is dense, paging through it now, there's so much to go into, I want to look for that post who tried derailing this guy, Robert Temple, without a detailed argument against, there's no reason NOT to believe his research.

I really want to get back into this bk tonight but I am kinda getting into Dark Mission and want to make some progress on that almost 600 pager.

this isn't anything to do with the claim that the Math supports the Dogon claim,
It doesn't, it was merely an exercise to show that something appeared to be interfering with the orbit of SiriusB

as we can now see that nothing is interfering with Sirius B and that there is no Sirius C at all we can safely conclude
1) the Dogon claim is erroneous
2) the maths was wrong
3) you will accept any evidence that backs up a pseudo historic claim and none that destroys it.

so like I said, you clearly believe that amphibious beings descended 5000 years ago in a ship that spat fire and have built your whole house of cards on unstable ground as a result, let me reiterate what other later anthopologists have said.

"the Dogon do not know anything about Sirius B or C at all and they aren't important in their cosmology or mythology"
really if you don't believe the people themselves then you are attributing to them whatever your imagination feels like because you have an agenda to spread erroneous claims because you want to. This says more about you than it ever did of them

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Though this thread hasn't seen any recent posts, I thought that I'd add my 2¢ worth;
The objects that appear near the tethered rod that are supposed to be "something" do not appear to be "going by" the spacecraft in their ususal manner, if it were "something" but their behavior is that of something in tandem with the orbiter. The tether is supposed to be at 50 miles away. The orbiter traverses a distance 50 miles in just a matter of seconds as it orbits the earth. So any object that is going anywhere near the spacecraft, should appear to be moving much faster, and unless travelling in tandem with the orbiter, would appear and disappear in just a few seconds. The behavior is that of a reflection and not of any object at all.

Since this thread has popped up again, I thought it worth posting a cross-reference in this thread to my article Dogon Alien “Mystery” Demystified.

As I mention in that article, I think NGC2736’s article is a concise and well-written account of one side of the debate regarding the Dogon. But it only presented one side.

Kind Regards,

Isaac

This was interesting found at least, but I am sorry to say it is based on a thin proof.

The fact is, according to the article by Walter E. A. van Beek which was published in Current Anthropology in 1991 (Volume 32, Number 2, April), that he couldn't confirm the Griaule's ethnography, but furthermore, he can't even regonize the tribe itself from Griaule's description.

Before Griaule, there has been other ethnographists and anthropologists whose description doesen't match Griaule's one. But nevertheless, van Beek went there to commit a restudy and found out that Dogon - just like other Mali tribes - had no idea that Sirius was doublestar..

Source: CA Vol. 32 No. 2 April

van Beek also recognized, that creational myths in religions can be restricted from public knowledge, but suggested that there should be at least traces of it visible:

Source: CA Vol. 32 No. 2 April

The question is, in my opinion at least, why does Griaule's description of Dogon religious myths contradict with the reports before and after his study? In my opinion, they have perhaps tried to start a new New Age-myth. Another possibility is that they learned about all this stuff from European conquerers, but that's far fetched, as it wasn't common knowledge in Europe either. 3rd option is that someone is trying to hide something. Maybe they have these rituals after all, but no one wants to admit it Go see it yourselves.

Sincerely

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oh damn,you beat me to post that theory.But try as i may i still cant get the "monty Python" -ish sketch outta my head of a couple of bogans in knee length safari suits with the knee high socks & carrying them butterfly nets & the leader of the expedition refusing the mens request for a rest & water break.For they must persevere at haste to this tribe or risk the real danger of a competing party getting to them first & informing them of the latest findings in the field of molecular science or for that matter "fred Bassett" was a rascal to walk in the latest comic strip in the daily.