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reply posted on 12-10-2007 @ 09:19 AM by jjohns
Originally posted by grover
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Don't give me that crap you know damned good and well what hate speech is.


Ooh... a little testy when I ask you to define hate speech. I'm only sorry I didn't predict this would be your reaction in my initial post. I knew it would be something like this...

And I could have guaranteed you were going to evade the question.

So what is hate speech? Are the liberals coming down on the mullahs (and the Kent St. professor) for calling for a jihad against America? Is that hate speech or is that speech protected by their 1st Amendment rights?

See, if you can't tell me ahead of time the definition of hate speech then it entirely undermines any credibility you have labeling something as hate speech AFTER the fact. This allows people like you to pick and choose what they think is hate speech based on furthering your own political agenda or ideology.

This is exactly the problem with the YouTube label. It allows people to decide arbitrarily what is hate speech. This leads down the slippery slope of taking away freedom of speech one sentence at a time, until all that's left is politically correct crap that the government says is ok.

Ok. This time I will make a prediction. You won't answer the question again and you will reply with an insult and/or a diversionary topic.


reply posted on 12-10-2007 @ 11:11 AM by Gools
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Thank you for so aptly demonstrating my point for me.

By the way, I see your new around here.

You will come to understand that the staff (there are over 50 of us) is made up of people from all over the world with a wide variety of opinions.

On this forum mods have opinions and are free to express them.

You know... that whole free speech thing.
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reply posted on 12-10-2007 @ 11:37 AM by jjohns
Originally posted by Gools
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Thank you for so aptly demonstrating my point for me.


Which point did I demonstrate for you? Was there anything hateful in my post?



By the way, I see your new around here.

You will come to understand that the staff (there are over 50 of us) is made up of people from all over the world with a wide variety of opinions.

On this forum mods have opinions and are free to express them.

You know... that whole free speech thing.
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Mods expressing unfounded opinions that forum members are haters is shameful, however free you are to express those opinions.

You see as a mod you volunteer to make sure members comply with the TOS of a private business. One of the TOS is not to insult or denigrate other members. Implying members who posted on this thread are "haters" is an back-door violation of the TOS, and really quite offensive.

While you are free to express this opinion, it reflects poorly on you personally and on ATS for having you as a mod.


reply posted on 12-10-2007 @ 12:28 PM by grover
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hate

verb [ trans. ]
feel intense or passionate dislike for (someone) :
• have a strong aversion to (something) :

noun
intense or passionate dislike : feelings of hate and revenge.
• [as adj. ] denoting hostile actions motivated by intense dislike or prejudice



Thesaurus
verb

hate loathe, detest, despise, dislike, abhor, execrate; be repelled by, be unable to bear/stand, find intolerable, recoil from, shrink from; formal abominate.

noun
feelings of hate hatred, loathing, detestation, dislike, distaste, abhorrence, abomination, execration, aversion; hostility, enmity, animosity, antipathy, revulsion, disgust, contempt, odium.



speech
noun
1 the expression of or the ability to express thoughts and feelings by articulate sounds
• a person's style of speaking
• the language of a nation, region, or group : the distinctive rhythms of their speech.
2 a formal address or discourse delivered to an audience


Thesaurus
speech
noun

speaking, talking, verbal expression, verbal communication.
talk, address, lecture, discourse, oration, disquisition, peroration, deliverance, presentation; sermon, homily; monologue, soliloquy; informal spiel.
tongue, parlance, idiom, dialect, vernacular, patois; informal lingo, patter, -speak, -ese.



Now try and put the two together. Its so easy a cave man can do it.

Here let me help...specifically hate speech is to PUBLICLY deride, insult or threaten someone soley because of their differences... I.E. being gay or being a foreigner or of a different race, religion or political party, gender etc. Or to incite or suggest violence against people because of their differences.

Hitler deriding the Jews at party rallies is the most egregious example because it led to acts such as the night of broken glass and ultimately to the gas chamber.

The KKK burning crosses in peoples yard is a more local example.

Need I go on?

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