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reply posted on 11-10-2007 @ 05:53 PM by SevenThunders
reply to post by shihulud


It pretty much sounds like you are simply regurgitating something you read on the web or perhaps in a book. The truth is that the christian faith is much deeper than this and is well supported by hundreds of old testament prophecies. If you care to dig deeper you can look at this site.

www.gospeloutreach.net...

Jesus is not pagan and is not a pagan myth. Rather it works the other way around. So called scholars deliberately mistranslated their egyptian and culled thousands of disparate sources to find vague similarities to the gospel. They then declared that Jesus is borrowed from pagan myths. Unfortunately for them, archeology fully supports both the old and the new testament.


reply posted on 11-10-2007 @ 06:19 PM by SevenThunders
Originally posted by masqua
Please, return to the topic of the lovely talented Ann Coulter and her insightful views on the Jewish people.



As you wish, but the fact is there is nothing really left in this topic.
The outrage against Ann Coulter is a reaction to the idea that christians want all Jews to convert to christianity. That's hardly a controversial statement. Jews take offense to it because they have been taught that to become a christian means that you are no longer Jewish. For any other religion that would be a true statement, but in fact it is not true for a Jew and it's fairly easy to see why.

For a Jew, faith in Jesus simply means that you believe that Jesus is the Messiah already promised in their Old Testament. You do not have to change your culture or stop following the law or traditions. Indeed there are many messianic jewish congregations who believe in Jesus and follow all of the traditions.

Now it turns out that some Jewish sects believe that the Messiah is already here and he is a certain rabbi in New York City. They have some odd beliefs actually. Yet I've never heard Jews rise up and say that these people aren't Jews because they believe that such and such Rabbi is the Messiah. There are no personal attacks or outrage at their beliefs.

The primary reason that the Jews reject their own who trust in Jesus is due to the fact that phony christians in the past, used the sad fact of history that the Jewish high priesthood was complicit in the death of Jesus to persecute Jews. That poisoned the Jews against their Messiah for two thousand years. Right now though, evangelical christians are the jews and Israel's best friend. Everyone else seems to hate them irrationally as has been the pattern of history.


reply posted on 11-10-2007 @ 06:24 PM by shihulud
Originally posted by cavscout
Originally posted by shihulud
Why shouldn't people hate christianity as it has been the cause of so much hate and division in its short 2000 year stint.


Short 2000 year stint? Very few things last 2000 years, and of those that have none can be said to have had more influence on the world than Christianity.
Yes with its murdering of thousands if not millions of people that don't believe its crap. Yes that it a worthy religion eh?

And I challenge you to show me something, anything, that has been around 2000 years and not been perverted by greedy men to better their own situation.
I totaly agree that there is very little but christianity seems to be the most greedy of most religions although I see Islam as getting more perverted but that may be due to the christian leadership of the western world seeemingly thinking it has some sort of authority (which it doesn't).

Why do you single out Christianity? Why do you harbor so much hate in your heart? Is it because you are searching for something to fill the void?
Because I find that christianity is the biggest source of dissent within the world today. The muslims are just as pissed off with the christian leadership with the "my way or the high way" attitude. Christianity has NO right nor authority to suggest such things due to it being a false religion and even if it wasn't it still has no authority.

You’re hurt, and you are lashing out, but you are still loved.
Yes loved by my family and friends not by some invented deity that a minority of people believe exists - you tend to forget that there are over 20,000 christian denominations who disagree in one way or another in some way. Which other religion has such divisions? NONE, just goes to show eh?


Do you deny that christianity has had a role in the division of the world?


Yes, this I deny.
Its really a pity that swearing is prohibited on this site or you would have at least 100 profanities sent towards you against your reply. Christianity has killed more people in one way or another than any other religion. Only disease has killed more but then again isn't religion a disease that infects the mind?

Just as with anything that has been around that long you can point to dark (on the inside) men who have attempted to pervert it for their own good.
Yes just as the worlds religions continue to do so today

However if one follows the word of the Christ as he spoke it, one will be filled with love, understanding, peaceful intentions, humbleness, charity and good will towards all men be they Christian or not.
Why do christians feel they have the monopoly on morals and ethics (swear words again). Well before the supposed jesus these values were in use. It seems even jesus stole stuff from the buddhist way of thinking.

Why can't you realise that christianity is a false religion that has stole most of its values from the other religions that surrounded it at the time. FFS it stole xmas, easter and even tried to capitalise on halloween with its all saint's day pish.

Do you even know of what happened during the early years of christianity?

Its not as if I hate individual christians themselves hell my family are christian but the religion itself is a scourge on humanity as is every other.


No, like I said, the religion is no scourge. The few men who have used it poorly are the scourge.
[edit on 11-10-2007 by cavscout]
I agree that man would find some other way to subjegate the populace if not for religion but religion seems to be the best way so yes religion is a scourge on humanity.


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reply posted on 11-10-2007 @ 06:35 PM by etshrtslr
reply to post by SevenThunders


I must say your thoughts are the classic example of the intolerance of Christianity.

When ever a religion gets to the point that they have all the answers and the so called truth and every other religion is wrong then the religion claiming the so called truth is on the verge of being irrelevant.

Read the bible and the murders and child sacrifices that the god of the OT committed and this is the same god that christian believe that Jesus is, and came to this earth in the flesh as to save all humanity for their so called sins.

So for all christian that think that Jesus is the representation of god in the flesh of the Old Testament then you believe in a God that advocated murder, committed murder and condoned child sacrifices.

Ask yourself this question. Who's sins did Jesus really die for? The billions of people that have not been born before Jesus arrived and had not the opportunity to sin? Or for the murder and child sacrifice that he committed as god before he came in the flesh?

For biblical a explanation read this thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...'


reply posted on 11-10-2007 @ 06:48 PM by centurion1211
reply to post by worldwatcher


This is a valid approach if you don't like Ann Coulter and how, in fact, the free enterprise system works.

It sure worked that way for Air America. Nobody liked the on air personalities, the guests, the content, etc. Didn't take long for the sponsors to realize this, and they disappeared with all their funding.

Result: a network many considered to be bigoted and hateful was off the air.




reply posted on 11-10-2007 @ 07:03 PM by shihulud
Originally posted by SevenThunders
reply to post by shihulud


It pretty much sounds like you are simply regurgitating something you read on the web or perhaps in a book. The truth is that the christian faith is much deeper than this and is well supported by hundreds of old testament prophecies. If you care to dig deeper you can look at this site.

www.gospeloutreach.net...
Oh yes us atheist's cannot think for ourselves. If jesus was the messiah WHY DON'T THE JEWS RECOGNISE HIM AS SUCH. Why didn't jesus fulfill the prophicies of the 'Hebrew Bible' Oh and while we're at it why did the christians change the ages of the patriarchs, I refer you to the septaguint version of genesis (which was used by the early christian leaders) If you care to check, it seems that the ages of begatting children are TOTALLY different to whats normally considered in the christian genesis, in fact if you calculate it out methuselah outlived the flood by 14 years(while still living to 969 years) but the christian version has him dying at the time of the flood - so convenient isn't it?

Jesus is not pagan and is not a pagan myth. Rather it works the other way around. So called scholars deliberately mistranslated their egyptian and culled thousands of disparate sources to find vague similarities to the gospel. They then declared that Jesus is borrowed from pagan myths. Unfortunately for them, archeology fully supports both the old and the new testament.
Oh I forgot that christianity seems to be immune to criticism - oh Satan made this #e up to try and debunk christianity (swear words). The fact that the main proponents of christianity were PAGAN'S (hmmm Paul of Tarsus whom BTW constitutes nearly 50% of the writings in the NT, Emperor Constantine who supposedly converted on his death bed) and the total similarities to virtually every pagan religion that went before and even at the same time as it. Did you notice that when christianity became the main religion that all other pagan religions and un orthodox christians were persecuted? I wonder why?



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reply posted on 11-10-2007 @ 07:24 PM by shihulud
reply to post by masqua


sorry never seen this - but I've had more of a rise in this forum than in most - I seem to kill things dead and it's good to debate.



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reply posted on 11-10-2007 @ 08:52 PM by V Kaminski
Video: Ann on Judaism 2007 on CNBC a Google-Vid 5 min

Video: Ann on US - Canadian relations and her understanding of Viet Nam a YouTube link.

She's "perfect". Much "fun".

I'd like to hear some more of what Valhall might consider as a "future" for "Ms. Coulter"... really, don't hold back now, Mmmm-kay?

Cheers,

Vic
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