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Originally posted by dawnstar
it wouldn't be God who would be protecting her, it would be man. heck, you read the bible, and you might even come to the conclusion that the women's salvation even depends on the man bowing to God.
there's kind of a conflict between Jesus's words...."My sheep know my voice and obey only me"....and "wives, obey your husband in all things." don't ya think?
(Acts 5:27-30) 27 So they brought them and stood them in the San′he·drin hall. And the high priest questioned them 28 and said: “We positively ordered YOU not to keep teaching upon the basis of this name, and yet, look! YOU have filled Jerusalem with YOUR teaching, and YOU are determined to bring the blood of this man upon us.” 29 In answer Peter and the [other] apostles said: “We must obey God as ruler rather than men. 30. . .
(Galatians 3:28-29) 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor freeman, there is neither male nor female; for YOU are all one [person] in union with Christ Jesus. 29 Moreover, if YOU belong to Christ, YOU are really Abraham’s seed, heirs with reference to a promise.
28There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Originally posted by SevenThunders
This simply talks about the role of women in church. The fact is the so called emancipation of women and women's lib. has not been particularly pleasant for women and it has been especially devastating to the family. But then according to Aaron Russo that was the plan all along
The Bible was the first book anywhere to teach the equality of man, woman and all races before God. That my friends was a RADICAL teaching for the first century. So before you cast aspersions on the Bible, learn the whole story.
Originally posted by LDragonFire
I’m not posting this to offend women. I don’t in anyway agree with the title of this thread, but from my research this is the opinion of the holy bible towards women. The conspiracy is that millions of women believe in the bible, but just how many know it’s view of them. I’m interested in the opinion of members and of women and of Christian women members regarding what the bible states.
This IMHO is disturbing to say the least. I personally enjoy a strong willed woman, that will not submit to me easily, but has a mind of her own, with her own opinions and strengths. To me the bible wishes you to be mindless and weak.
34women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. 1 Corinthians 14:34
1A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. 13For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety. I TIMOTHY 2:11-15
18Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. Colossians 3:18
22Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. EPHESIANS 5:22-24
A woman must not wear men's clothing, nor a man wear women's clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this. Deuteronomy 22:5
There are Many more.
I got the verses here biblegateway
It seems insane to follow a book that has such a low opinion of women.
What say you?
Originally posted by exitestablishment
O.K. Religion in general dis-allows women to teach to the congragation. You think christianity is "bad", take a look at judism, islam, hinduism. Only in the christian are women teaching in the congragation. Wheather or not we agree with what the bible say is inconsiquecial.
It is only natural for a man to take on the leading role in the family. You can't have two leaders in the same household. It won't work. So someone has to be the leader, that is man, and a man feels confident enough to take on this role and a women is comfrotable in her position. I have had pleanty of girlfriends who would have it no other way. As a matter of fact, women find strong men attractive.
When was the last time you felt attracted to a woman for her leadership and authority over you? That's not a natural attraction for a man to have unless he is homosexual. So in religion it is written, and in atheism, it is a natural attraction of the sexes. JMHO.
Originally posted by BooBabe
I am a woman and I like the Bible very much, it is just the right size to prop up my broken table leg
Seriously though, it would have to be my opinion that the reason the Bible was written for men, by men, and advocates keeping the female gender down and undermined is this simple:
Secretly, perhaps even subconciously, men are terrified of women, always have been, always will be. I mean, come on, if God existed, it is pretty darn obvious what sex he favours. Women of course, duh, we got the multiple orgasms.
Ok Paragraphs can be fun. The topic is about how the bible views women, not the other religions you posted. If you wish to discuss them thats fine, I have no problems arguing against them as well, because they were also written by men, for men, insecure men at that.
You are assuming that men are dominant by nature. Dominance is not determined by the sex of a individual. There are dominant men and women, just as there are submissive men and women. The correct term is that most women are attracted to domiant men, and visa versa.
So your saying that if a man is submissive towards women, he is a homosexual?
You are speaking about human nature as it's a black or white, but personally there are many gray areas here.
Truthfully pure dominate or submissive people are rare, most people have traits of both.
Originally posted by LDragonFire
Are you serious, giving them the right to vote, the right to be equal and have a right to speak up for themselves is a bad thing. Its mind numbing propaganda, you believe this stuff, really?
The whole story has a beginning where women were below men and needed to shut up and sit down, a middle where they needed to shut up and sit down, or be killed for choosing to live in sin, or to marry one that rapes them, and the end where you say the bible preaches equality.
Its one or the other or Both??? Contradiction abound my friend. Whether you chose to see it or not.
Originally posted by yahn goodey
reply to post by LDragonFire
thanks for the suggestion?-i'll ask my wifes permission to give to give her your idea-----oh no! please dont taze me dearrrrrrrrrrrrr
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
in the same book where it says it's an "abomination" that men have long hair