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Originally posted by Sparky63
To prosper, both the family and the congregation need women and men to play their respective roles with love and respect.—Ephesians 5:21-25, 28, 29, 33.
Unfortunately because on mans sinful condition many men have abused their headship and have used it as an excuse to dominate and denigrate women.
“You husbands, continue dwelling in like manner with them according to knowledge, assigning them honor as to a weaker vessel, the feminine one, since you are also heirs with them of the undeserved favor of life, in order for your prayers not to be hindered.”
Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
The entire OT is full of laws against women, keeping them down. Laws supposedly given by god.
bold text by me for emphasis
6 “In case your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or your cherished wife or your companion who is like your own soul, should try to allure you in secrecy, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ whom you have not known, neither you nor your forefathers. . . (Deuteronomy 13:6)
(Joshua 8:35) 35 There proved to be not a word of all that Moses had commanded that Joshua did not read aloud in front of all the congregation of Israel, together with the women and the little ones and the alien residents who walked in their midst.
Education was principally for boys.
“As a result few women were learned.”
“On the whole, the position of women in religious legislation is best expressed in this constantly repeated formula: ‘Women, (Gentile) slaves and children.’ . . . We may add to all this that there were plenty of disdainful opinions expressed on women. . . . We have therefore the impression that Judaism in Jesus’ time also had a very low opinion of women.”
Originally posted by LDragonFire
It seems insane to follow a book that has such a low opinion of women.
What say you?
Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
Yeah, and that's why Lilith was driven from Eden, because she didn't take her "proper place." She was turned out and demonized.
(Acts 2:17-18) 17 ‘“And in the last days,” God says, “I shall pour out some of my spirit upon every sort of flesh, and YOUR sons and YOUR daughters will prophesy and YOUR young men will see visions and YOUR old men will dream dreams; 18 and even upon my men slaves and upon my women slaves I will pour out some of my spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.
“I do not permit a woman to teach, or to exercise authority over a man.” (1 Timothy 2:12)
“there is neither slave nor freeman, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one person in union with Christ Jesus.”
Originally posted by Alexander the o.k.
I see a range of behaviors and morays CHOSEN by women.
Most good looking women CHOOSE to dress in high heels and short skirts and to be sexy. They flirt because it gives them a feeling of power. Sexual power.
At the same time I see women who are average looking resent them for making this choice of behavior. Most, not all, but most of the hot women I've known have been shallow and self absorbed. I've seen it all my life.
If you say it is not their choice, but that society forces them to behave this way, then you are saying that women can not think rationally or for themselves. You cannot have it both ways.
If this is not obvious, then please explain why it is not.
Been going on since I was little, and probably since time began.
Please, let's stop all the victimization speak here.
Women are not mind controlled by some vast male dominated conspiracy. They simply make their own choices regarding their sexuality, and their behavior good or bad, and it is NOT society's fault.
That is 'victim' speak.
Males however, are expected to be strong, yet sensitive, provide an excellent income for the family, work 10 hour days but be home every night by 6 to help with the chores, help with dinner, kids, vacuum, take out the trash, mow the lawn, fix the car, paint the porch, and take her out, etc.
Originally posted by pstrron
She sees things in ways that I do not and can shed light that will inable me to make the right decision. She is priceless! Don't think she is subservient either. I stand beside her, not over her. I will put her behind me to protect her, thats my job.