Giza: A Warning From Antiquity - Part 4, page 1
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reply posted on 12-10-2007 @ 10:13 PM by 1337cshacker
This is brilliant scott. Keep up the great work!


reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 05:04 PM by Scott Creighton
reply to post by Scalamander

Hello Scalamander,

Many thanks for your post.

I was wondering what you think of the stepped pyramids in Tenochtitlan, particularly in how they seem to match up to Giza (even being on the same line of latitude). I also heard that the mathematics the ancient Egyptians used were off somewhat due to some universal shift or whatnot, and that the Mayan Long Calendar is more accurate.


SC: My main research concerns the pyramids at Giza although I have done some research into the structures in Central America, particularly those at Teotihuacan in Mexico. What I find truly remarkable is the fact that a straight line can be drawn on a world map through the sites of Teotihuacan, Giza and Xi'an in China. When we analyse this line we find it comes out at 23.5* (i.e. the angle of the Earth's obliquity). I do not think this can be the result of simple coincidence and that somewhere in our remote past there was a global civilisation capable of making such 'statements'.

Parts 1 to 4 of my research posted here on ATS concerns itself with uncovering an ancient astronomical clock/calendar that points to past and future dates - the 'WHEN'. Part 5 of my work looks at the 'WHAT' - i.e. what happened 12,500 years ago? I will be posting this in the not too distant future.

Best wishes,

SC


reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 05:05 PM by Scott Creighton
reply to post by 1337cshacker

Hello 1337cshacker,

Many thanks for your kind words. I will be posting Part 5 of my research in the not too distant future.

Many thanks again.

SC


reply posted on 15-10-2007 @ 12:41 AM by 1337cshacker
Originally posted by Scott Creighton
reply to post by 1337cshacker

Hello 1337cshacker,

Many thanks for your kind words. I will be posting Part 5 of my research in the not too distant future.

Many thanks again.

SC

Ah, I look forward to it. Hoped not to be left hanging


reply posted on 15-10-2007 @ 08:52 AM by Scott Creighton
reply to post by eRauzed

Hello eRauzed,

Many thanks for your post.

eRauzed : Wow, this was really really awesome ! I'm interested in whether or not any archaeologists have contacted you about excavating that site you mention that lies at 29'57'46.04 N 31'06'55.22 E.


SC: There was some discussions a while back which, alas, I cannot elaborate upon at present. It is very difficult to obtain permits and we have to respect the monuments and the tremendous job the Egyptian authorities are doing in preserving the monuments. I think it would be remiss of them to grant permits to every theory that came along.

eRauzed: … I believe you must highly believe your findings as I'm sure you have your critics who have the right contacts to have that site excavated, which could if theres nothing there deal a big blow to your 'rep' or credibility. You've convinced me that your findings are correct.


SC: The PRIMARY function of the concavities of Khufu and Menkaure I believe serve as a timing mechanism. However, I speculate that the same features could ALSO have a secondary function i.e. as a triangulation mechanism in the manner I have described. If nothing is found under the sands at the co-ordinates I indicate it could mean that nothing was ever there or that it has already been found and removed. If nothing was ever there then we are left with the original primary function that they are used as a timing/dating mechanism.

Thanks for your post. It is nice to see that people are reading this and asking good questions.

Best wishes,

SC


reply posted on 15-10-2007 @ 10:13 AM by Scott Creighton
reply to post by seawolf197

Hello Seawolf,

Many thanks for your post.

Seawolf197: X marks the spot? Could you elaborate a little more on what you think might be in there?


SC: It would be really nice vindication of my work if a small scale granite model of the Giza plateau was discovered at this location or perhaps the mythical 'Hall of Records' - but I really don't know. There could be absolutely nothing. I believe, however, that if there are some ancient records to be found they WILL NOT be found under any structures at the Giza plateau. It is my considered opinion that such a civilisation would only have wished that any such material would be found by those with the ability to decode and understand their mathematics - and those mathematics take us well away from Giza albeit Giza may have been designed to 'point to' this location.

Seawolf197: Does the information that you have gathered so far, lead to a projected date of another major event? Do I need to shut up and wait for post 5?


SC: This is explained in Part 2 and Part 3 of my research.

Thanks for your questions - I do appreciate them.

Best wishes,

SC


reply posted on 15-10-2007 @ 11:53 AM by Scott Creighton
reply to post by 123143

Hello 123143,

Interesting theory. Looking forward to Part 5. I assume you'll keep us updated on any archaeological expeditions to the point in question.


SC: As stated in another post, it is sometimes difficult to post what are essentially confidential discussions in a public forum. Suffice to say, I will let you know what I can in the fullness of time.

Best wishes,

SC


reply posted on 15-10-2007 @ 07:01 PM by marg6043
reply to post by Scalamander


I always have wondered about that myself, perhaps all these ancient structures all together had more meaning that we may even dream about.

I will love for Mr, Creighton to expand his research.

I will like to know if an excavation will be in the planing also.


reply posted on 15-10-2007 @ 11:43 PM by orangetom1999
Scott Creighton and others,

What little I know about the pyramids and the plateau is that they were a measuring device for the heavens. In this manner time could be accurately kept. Seasons measured...the flow of the river Nile calculated, particularly the flood season as this knowlege was very important to them. This was the base for power of the Royalty and the priesthood. It kept and supported the God Man/priesthood feudal structure.
There appears to have been two systems of measurement ..or knowlege in some of these cultures. One standard for the Royalty ..supported by their priesthoods or religions. Another standard of measurement or knowlege for the general public. The Royal system was kept secret from the general public. Hence thier power base kept secure.

The very intresting thing to me is that in most of the ancient world numbers as we know it like PI were not known or understood by most peoples. The mathematics was in the form of Geometry. To my limited knowlege it began here and was then spread to other nations particularly Greece. From there to the Romans etc etc.

The concept of the wheel is quite plausable. I say this because if you watch certain historys between the lines...you sense that buildings ..or archecture was a form of language to those knowlegable in this type of secret. This Geometry appeared to be part of the religion...and expressed in their surviving great buildings.

The circle is what I see when I look at a overhead of the city of Paris, France. Who was the architect??

Stonehenge appears to be a variation of this wheel concept. There are many variations of this even within England. I was surprised to learn how many such stone creations there are in existance in England.

I see this in a different form when looking at Washington DC with the circle extending from the shadow cast by the Washington Monument as a sort of story telling pointer. The shadow of the tip of the monument seasonally tracks a cricle around WAshington DC. It is a pointer....telling a story to those knowlegable in the secrets.

What I have learned is that in many nations the story or lesson is transmitted by intimate knowlege of certain beliefs or secrets/diciplines...in two manners. By a pointer casting a shadow as described in the Washington Monument or the other way as a type of block ..as in blocking out the sun so that only on one or more days do the suns rays cast the light on a particular spot which would be a holiday or festival day. Here the architecture or geometry is used to block the suns rays ...except on the time/ date/dates appointed.

Nevertheless I am not a mathematecian...nor well versed in Geometry. I have however been to Paris, France and Washington DC. THey are unusual citys once you know this history. I dont believe these are the only citys like this. I believe this is more common than known by the bulk of the public.

I believe that these citys are meant also to be seen from the overhead by thier gods...in addition to functional as described ..sort of a clock.

I also get the impression that these people in Ancient Egypt had found a way to square a circle....or express a circle or orb shape as a somewhat flatsided pyramid. This sounds sort of stupid when I type it out but it is my impression. They had found a way to put a circle or an orb into a non circular shape. THese people seemed to have understood relationships in geometric shapes and angles...which we mostly express in our numbers today. Strange...I Know. Remember ...too...all this without mathematics or numbers as we know it. Remarkable is an understatement here.

One more thing on variations of this type of architecture. I also suspect that variations of this pattern are done in stained glass today to tell a story and cast the light on the altars on certain holidays. I first began to notice this when it occured to me that some churchs around here are laid out somewhat unusually in the lots so as to get the sun shining through the stained glass on certain times of the year. Something for some of you to observe when you are out and about in your various towns and citys.

I think this pattern of operation is much more comon than most of us are ever or even aware.

My apologies if this seems a strange post but it is something I have noticed over time and some reading on this subject. As stated I am not mathemetically inclined but have noticed the points I have expressed here.
When you see this pattern repeated over and over ...I surmise it cannot be accidental.

Thanks,
Orangetom


reply posted on 16-10-2007 @ 05:30 AM by Scott Creighton
reply to post by luis9343

Hello Luis,

Thank you for your post.

Luis9343: I do think there is plenty of evidence that suggest there was an advanced ancient civilization.


SC: One of the most intriguing aspects of my work is that it shows the precession of the Orion Belt stars over 13,000 years. In other words, the ancient Designers of this groundplan had to mathematically work out and project where the belt stars would be located and how they would be orientated approximately13,000 years into the future (from their own time). Our present understanding of mankind’s abilities at this time simply does not accept that this was possible.

However, my work shows us different. My work demonstrates in a very vivid and striking way that such a civilisation must have existed in great antiquity because we have the proof of their existence in the incredible mathematical and astronomical ‘message’ they have passed down to us.

Luis9343: Thinking in an average human way, I think there must have been a greater reason for the Gizamids than simply to warn us.


SC: Have you ever driven your car and noticed various warning signs along the route? Have you ever warned a child away from something dangerous? Protecting our species is a very natural human instinct. I can think of no more powerful motive for creating this design.

Best wishes,

SC


reply posted on 16-10-2007 @ 11:01 AM by luis9343
Originally posted by Scott Creighton
reply to post by luis9343


SC: Have you ever driven your car and noticed various warning signs along the route? Have you ever warned a child away from something dangerous? Protecting our species is a very natural human instinct. I can think of no more powerful motive for creating this design.


Well ok, but I think there's a difference: The sings in the street are to protect the people but most importantly "US" as well. We need them, so we don't crash into people and so people don't crash into us. Also, the people making these signs....i don't really think they're thinking of helping and protecting us rather, thinking about getting they're job done to get their well deserved check, to live and eat. And sure, i have possible warned a child of something dangerous, but i mean, that is something relatively simple and almost invisible when compared to the Gizamids. It's like saying hi to someone in the street. How many kids or people are you gona warn about life prior to your death? Possible your son, daughter, but other than that i doubt it. ( Unless of course your theory is correct, lol, I'm talking about the average person though). Theres millions of kids dying in Africa, in Iraq, who's warning them? We have massive disasters here on earth, hurricanes, Aids, earthquakes, are we doing anything to warn civilizations 10,000 years in the future about this?

I don't know, i still think there must have been another reason for this, i mean, to do all this i think they must have been getting something out of it, no? .

Thanks for your reply.



[edit on 16-10-2007 by luis9343]


reply posted on 16-10-2007 @ 02:47 PM by Scott Creighton
reply to post by luis9343

Hello Luis,

Thanks for your post.

Luis9343: ...We have massive disasters here on earth, hurricanes, Aids, earthquakes, are we doing anything to warn civilizations 10,000 years in the future about this?


SC: All life is precious and is perhaps even more so when only a few have survived a major Earth cataclysm. Coming so close to extinction by this cyclical cataclysmic event would be motive indeed for our ancient ancestors to make their children and their children's children aware of future dangers. However, that the dates the Giza Precession Wheel apparently indicates may be a warning of some kind is speculation on my part. But it is speculation that is not entirely without foundation.

Around the time the Belt stars of Orion were aligned horizontally on the southwest horizon (c.10,550BC), science is now telling us that a major catastrophe occurred on the Earth. Plato also tells us that 'Atlantis' sank beneath the waves around 9,500BC. The Giza Precession Wheel tells us that two events occurred and the dates of these events correlate extremely well with Plato's date and the scientific date. So, is this just a remarkable coincidence? Or, is it just possible that we are in fact being told something here by the ancient Designers concerning these past dates?

Now, of course, I could very easily be putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5. But we have to also give room for the possibility that the ancients are indicating these dates in their Giza Precession Wheel for the very reason science is now telling us - tramatic events occurred around those dates.

Accepting then that this is indeed the reason, we have to then ask ourselves the next obvious question - why in their Precession Wheel are the ancient Designers also indicating the dates 2,500AD and 3,130AD?

We have to ask ourselves - is it possible that the ancients knew something we don't?

I may very well be wrong in my speculations but given what we are now finding about the past events correlating very closely with the past dates encoded into the Wheel, we have to consider the possibility that the ancients are pointing to these future dates to indicate a CYCLE - that the events of the past will come around again on these future dates. And that time will come when the Orion belt stars reach a particular point around the Precession Wheel.

I don't know, i still think there must have been another reason for this, i mean, to do all this i think they must have been getting something out of it, no?


SC: I believe the ancient Designers have given us an 'early warning system' and that they cared more for the future of humanity than we perhaps care about it today. As for the AEs of the 4th Dynasty who actually built the Pyramids (from the sacred design), they did so for their own religious/cultural ideas related to the King's Afterlife. They most likely had no idea of the deeper message lying within their sacred design.

It is quite possible though, that this concept of the Pharaoh's 'Afterlife' was 'hijacked' or had become corrupted over time and that it originally concerned itself with ensuring an 'Afterlife' for all humanity rather than the soul of a single Pharaoh. The 'sacred plan' is a warning system - by heeding its warning we might have a chance of surviving the next catastrophic event in whatever shape or form that might be. We will have an 'Afterlife' because we understood the warning and made contingency plans for it. A bit like what we have already started doing:

news.bbc.co.uk...

It may well be that survival plans (unknown to the masses) are already well underway.

Best wishes,

SC
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