Wow! Excellent find. Other members may have already known this but it's news to me. That seems like a quite pleasant equatorial region to live in, climatologically speaking. I always wondered how Mars maintained such a cool temperature (below 0 degrees celcius) with such an abundant supply of CO2 in the atmosphere, its the worst greenhouse has you know... Guess it can be quite nice there, despite the huge temperature variation between the equator and the poles. Hope technology increases at such an exponential rate that I may purchase real estate there and retire.

CrazyIvan...

What are you talking about ?... Does the fact that we have frozen water in our own poles here on Earth affect
water in the Dead Sea?... Off course not.
It`s very possible to have a Dead Sea on Mars also, while there is ice in the poles.

Very true... and I hope that now since the possobility of liquid water being on Mars has risen, they will search harder so we can find it sooner.

Is this upper atmosphere, or surface albedo?

It's worth noting that it's several thousand degrees in the upper atmosphere on Earth, so if this is the atmospheric temperature, it's not surprising and may not mean it's above freezing on the surface.



[Edited on 24-1-2004 by Zzub]

This means that in 50 yrs mars will be nothing but condos, casinos, and old people

I have posted that here before with links also. But I do agree with the gist of your thread that water and life did and can exist on mars (if in fact it does not presently).

Is this upper atmosphere, or surface albedo?

According to the link it seems to be the surface daytime temp

Whoops

[Edited on 24-1-2004 by Amuk]

From page 212 of Orbiting the Sun by Fred L. Whipple (this edition published in 1981):

"The so-called oases in the Phoenicis Lacus (Solic Lacus) and Noachis sectors show daily temperatures of -53 to +22 degrees C in the summer..." (Data taken from global temperature structure of the surface provided by Viking Orbiter 1.

breaking news.....we found h2o on mars like a few days ago.....get updated

Originally posted by silQ
breaking news.....we found h2o on mars like a few days ago.....get updated

Hey silQ...get a clue before some one bitch-slaps you right here in front of God and everybody.

We are talking about TEMPERATURES...go away if you haven't got anything to contribute.

did we really find water one mars.... a few days ago?? Break the news to me please....

Originally posted by PAX
CrazyIvan...

What are you talking about ?... Does the fact that we have frozen water in our own poles here on Earth affect
water in the Dead Sea?... Off course not.
It`s very possible to have a Dead Sea on Mars also, while there is ice in the poles.

there is no liquid water on mars. those blue spots dont mean water. its where water used to be

Amuk is right in pointing out those are day time temps. Nighttime temps are quite intolerably cold.

Zzub, that says that it can max out at about 1,500 degrees in times of high solar activity.

You stated that earth's upper atmosphere's temperature is several thousands of degrees.

It is roughly 30 degrees celsius on average. We've just learned this in science.

Hair splitting, but you aren't right.

and PAX, thanks, erh, you don't seem to have read what I posted, or notice that the link I provided was actually on the same site. A quote from that same site:

"The warmest temperatures of about -65 degrees Fahrenheit are observed near the surface and equator."

Those schematics aren't even of the surface, their of the atmosphere, and they show the amount of dust flying around, causing friction and heat. They don't show Mars' surface temp.