The Disease of Mindless Patriotism, My Thoughts, page 3
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reply posted on 9-10-2007 @ 02:03 PM by traderonwallst
reply to post by kosmicjack



I too agree it is protected by free speach. BUT, be warned, I also believe it is my free speech to walk up the person that lights that flag on fire and punch him repeatedly in the face. If somebody really want to impress someone and make a real statement, they should first wrap themselves up in that flag and then light up. Now that is Patriotism, dying for one's nation.

Sorry folks, patriotism goes a little deeper to me when it comes to issues of 9-11. I take that attack extremely personally. I went to work that morning and lost a lot of good people, a few good friends, but mostly colleagues. I see that Flag and think of evceryone who ever fought and died for our freedoms. I see that flag and remember those who dies that day. I see that flag and remember that this is one nation UNDER GOD, indivisble. That indivisible part is the most important part to me. Prior to WW2, we were a nation at peace, not involved with the goings on overseas, but keeping an eye on them. We were attacked, we responded. Not as individuals, but as a nation. The men went off to war, the women went into the factories to support the war effort and the men at war. People did without things, so the troops could do with. Now that is Patriotism at its best.

I am not sure why the attacks of 9-11 did not solidify the people of the US 100% any war effort that might take place. My guess is that us here in NY City were attacked and the indivisible part of the US is slowly falling apart. We are now longer the United States of America. The media has made sure of that. We are the red states and the blue states, the haves and the have nots, the right and left wings, the Yankee fans and anti-yankee fans. The media has separated us and wants us kept that way. They need a divided United States so they have groups to pander too. They have put labels on everything, black america, african american, italian american, jewish american, native american...... etc. What happend to being 1 people? 1 nation?

I am a PROUD AMERICAN. I willingly chant USA USA USA. I pledge to my flag and to the United States of America. I pledge to my family, I will protect you and my nation with everything I have; if I feel threatened. No one shall take away from me, or anyone I love, the rights I was born with, as a citizen of the United States of America!!!!!!!!!!!


reply posted on 9-10-2007 @ 02:16 PM by kosmicjack
reply to post by traderonwallst



Nice. But your rights end where mine begin. Your actions would cease being "free speech" and would then become "assault and battery". Somehow I don't think you care. Why? Because you suffer from the disease of "Mindless Patriotism". Thanks for proving the OPs point.



reply posted on 9-10-2007 @ 02:24 PM by Operation AJAX
reply to post by jtma508



Would you apply that to attempts to negate or alter the Bill of Rights in the name of the War on Terrorism?


reply posted on 9-10-2007 @ 02:54 PM by grover
reply to post by DCP



What do I do? I grow and can as much of my own food as I am able. I have replaced every light bulb in my place with energy saving types. I do not own a car, for years I got by on a bicycle until my knee started bothering me real bad, now I use a scooter that gets 70 mpg and goes up to 80 (I am told, I have never gone above 60), I recycle and I belong to the local natural foods co-op, I help clean up my neighborhood which includes part of the Roanoke River. I cook for the children in our local Baha'i' children's classes. I belong to a myrid of organizations from Greenpeace to the ACLU, the Nature Conservancy to Autobahn
Sierra Club to Plowshares for peace.

I try and live peacefully and lightly on the planet.

What do you do?


reply posted on 9-10-2007 @ 03:04 PM by traderonwallst
reply to post by kosmicjack



My rights were originally infringed upon by you. You have no idea how much of a wound I would consider you causing me by burning my flag. Sorry if you feel harrassed, but my response as punching the culprit as hard as I can in the face would be an ample response. And believe it or not, I can not find the article right now. Some local judiciaries have agreed with that. Although they believe it is a punishable crime, punching a flag burner in the face, the penalty is a $5 fine and time served. NOW THAT IS JUSTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would gladly pay $10 for the priveledge of punching a flag burner in the face.


reply posted on 9-10-2007 @ 03:18 PM by DCP
Grover

much respect for you.



reply posted on 9-10-2007 @ 04:07 PM by grover
reply to post by esdad71




What have I done with my freedoms today?

I have served lunch at a homeless shelter.
I gave some produce from my garden to this elderly couple a few doors down from me.
I cleaned up my block.
I made someone laugh who had been crying.
I offered to help someone.
I prayed for peace.
I told someone I loved them.
I told the truth.
I recycled my garbage.
I helped out at my co-op even though I didn't have to.
I helped plan a lesson for the children's classes I usually cook for.
I played with my animals.
I enjoyed being alive.
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