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UK Teen Caught With Copy Of Anarchist's Cookbook Brought Up On Terror Charges

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posted on Oct, 7 2007 @ 10:50 PM
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UK Teen Caught With Copy Of Anarchist's Cookbook Brought Up On Terror Charges


news.bbc.co.uk

The 17-year-old, who was arrested in the Dewsbury area of West Yorkshire on Monday, was given bail after a hearing at Westminster Magistrates' Court.
It is alleged he had a copy of the "Anarchists' Cookbook", containing instructions on how to make home-made explosives.
The teenager faces two charges under the Terrorism Act 2000.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Oct, 7 2007 @ 10:50 PM
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This document which is easily available on the internet or via email. Anyone in possession of such documents can now be charged as a terrorist.
Like owning a copy of Mein Kampf makes you a Nazi?
Please.
Knowledge should not be limited or restrained.


news.bbc.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Oct, 7 2007 @ 10:55 PM
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This is ridiculous but this is the world we live in. Owning a book- regardless of the topic is NOT ILLEGAL!!

So if I own Serial Killer Autobiographies does that mean I should be charge cause I may become one? This sets a very dangerous precedent. Not to even mention that this particular book has been around FOR A VERY VERY LONG TIME. I read this book over 20 years ago and ever 13 year old at that time though it was a cool book. There is nothing illegal about owning it. The only thing that is illegal would be if this teen was in possession of bomb making materials.



posted on Oct, 7 2007 @ 10:59 PM
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does that affect america too? im going to delete mine just to be safe. do you think it may include field manuals too? i cant believe they did that though no links to any terrorist orginizations but hes a terrorist. do you remember in the news about a year ago six people were arrested in some town in florida or something like that because they looked like they may be terrorists and then there was nothing else ever said about it like it just dissappeared. well when i was watching that the way one of the people came up and talked to a reporter it looked scripted...i think that the government developed the whole lone wolf thing so they can make stuff like what happenned in the UK legal here. idonno i hope the kids got a damn good lawyer.



posted on Oct, 7 2007 @ 11:05 PM
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According to the Patriot Acts and the way they defined "Terrorist" you do not have to be associated with any Terrorist Organizations to be classified as a Terrorist. If I remember it correctly it was defined as anyone who breaks ANY state or federal law, among other things.



posted on Oct, 7 2007 @ 11:17 PM
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oh well ive broken a state law but luckily i wasnt labeled a terrorist. is it just me or does it seem like things just keep getting worse? imean granted some things come from unreliable news sources and can be written off as false but even main stream news seems to be verifying my worries over this whole abuse of power system.



posted on Oct, 7 2007 @ 11:19 PM
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Since the court hasn't made a ruling yet; hopefully it will make a ruling of injustice against the two kids. Just because you have books on such stuff doesn't mean you are a criminal.

In the USA you can see these kinds of books selling at every gun show and knife show, and people buy them there all the time. They are interesting reading, especially the "Poor Man James Bond" book. I thought it had some interesting stuff in it.

Besides there are probably lots of libraries in the USA that have these books on their shelves for anyone to read. I suspect they exist in other libraries in many other countries in which the language is not a barrier.

I should hope that the court sets these young men free and that the court adjusts the law; the court can adjust the law in its first rulings, quite easily. If the court doesn't, then the people need to stand up and be heard, that the kids have not been found guilty of any "act". Reading is not an act of criminal activity...or terrorist activity.



posted on Oct, 7 2007 @ 11:19 PM
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Well they can do whatever they want, I have the book. So just try to come in my house and say i'm a terrorist because of it, just try. Anyone here defending this kind of tyranny should go in North Korea.



posted on Oct, 7 2007 @ 11:19 PM
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This is frightening. I can see them trying this here in the states, but I don't see it as successful. Yet.

I think we're still at the point where there would be a huge outcry if a teenager got arrerested solely for possessing a copy of a book that's been popular with teenaged boys for around 20 years (kind of the flip side of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance).

Is there an organization similar to the ACLU in England that can help this kid?



posted on Oct, 7 2007 @ 11:54 PM
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This is outrageous. Whoever advocated the arrest for him should be stripped of all titles, credit, and extradited from the country.

Reading a book is not illegal, and anyone who says otherwise does not deserve to live in a free country.


I had a copy of the anarchists cookbook.
It reads much like an amateurs chemistry book would...

heck, chemistry classes in high school teach you how to make explosive reactions, are we going to start shutting down all education systems now too?

Free this kid... he's a citizen of a free nation, and should be treated as such!



posted on Oct, 8 2007 @ 12:51 AM
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Wow this is crazy... My friend and I actually got pulled over for going over the yellow line one night and my friend had an actual hard back copy of the book in the back seat and didnt think about it at the time. When the cop got to the car to give us a ticket for being intoxicate... a little high... he found the book, took it, and went back to his cruiser and stayed there for 10 mins till another patrol car got there... They let us go but I have a strong feeling they decided to watch my friend more closely after that. I am glad the didnt arrest him for it or call him a terrorist and all that good junk. If this isnt Nazi America, then I dont know what is.



posted on Oct, 8 2007 @ 01:33 PM
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As a negative this basically advertises the existence of the book and enhances the books reputation. Any chemistry student can make an explosive, its the motives behind doing so that attract the heavy hand of the law - its highly probable the security services had good reasons bringing the young lad into line. This book has been circulating round the old Internet for years, why did they decide to crack down on this individual?



posted on Oct, 8 2007 @ 01:36 PM
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I have a copy of this same book online that I downloaded. I better watch out or the thought police will come and lock me up. Pathetic.



posted on Oct, 8 2007 @ 01:41 PM
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this is lame...my mother used to be a manager of walden books...she brought one home when i was about 12 cause the store had to take them off the shelf.

there are quite a few books that are like that actually.

the turner diaries is another one i can think of.

the cookbook is pretty basic too.



posted on Oct, 8 2007 @ 01:59 PM
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What kind of police officer arrestes someone for haveing a book in there pocket?
What has to happened he "Great Britsh Bobbys" common sense because it was that police officer that should of had the good sense to ignore hat book or any book for that matter.....so i take it that book is now on some kind of "what they cant read list" ...I have that book my self does tthat mean im going to make a bomb? No it dosent

what next book burning? ....and to the poster that said they are going to delate there copy .......Dont you dere its a book ...ONLY a book dont be conditioned

i think ill walk around with it pokeing out my back pockets at all times now ....ill laugh all the way to the prision if i get arrested and then read it in my cell to while away the hours


"Snip" em



posted on Oct, 8 2007 @ 02:00 PM
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According to other sources the accused was "plotting" to blow someone up.
news.sky.com...

This link provides details of another offense then goes on to details the substances the accused is alleged to have been planning to use to make a bomb.
news.yahoo.com...



posted on Oct, 8 2007 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by section8citizen
There is nothing illegal about owning it. The only thing that is illegal would be if this teen was in possession of bomb making materials.


Unfortunately for this poor lad, if West Yorkshire police want to find 'bomb-making materials' they only have to look under his kitchen sink, as that is where the majority of the chemicals needed for the Anarchists' Cookbook come from.



posted on Oct, 8 2007 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by TexasT

I think we're still at the point where there would be a huge outcry if a teenager got arrerested solely for possessing a copy of a book that's been popular with teenaged boys for around 20 years


For now anyway. What they'll do is wait for (or stage) some kid shooting up a school or bombing something and make sure to list a bunch of materials he may have had like this book or field manuals or whatever then drill it in the media over and over and over until having a copy of any of these materials and committing a crime becomes cause and effect in the minds of the people.

Then they'll be free to ban and burn whatever they want and arrest whoever they want.



posted on Oct, 8 2007 @ 02:25 PM
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Dewsbury eh? Hmmm, I wonder.... oh look!


Originally posted by Freeborn
According to other sources the accused was "plotting" to blow someone up.
news.sky.com...


An interesting source... And in their eagerness to prove that all Muslims cannot be trusted, Sky reveal the accused is dual British-Pakistani nationality.

If this kid was Joe Smith who's family came to Britain with the Normans, would he have been charged on terrorism charges for owning this book?

I was about to say not bloody likely, but hey, you never know with HMG these days... especially with people like Special Branch having inch thick files on all dissidents these days, regardless of background...

[edit on 8-10-2007 by John Percival Hackworth]



posted on Oct, 8 2007 @ 02:57 PM
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Crap, I go to that forum all the time.




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