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reply posted on 16-1-2008 @ 11:13 PM by obilesk
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I never saw the logic you have presented so simply. I personally have thought that if you break the law, then the appropriate punishment should ensue. But even I, with that belief, also see that not only does the punishment rarely fit the crime, but sometimes the crime is only a crime because the law says it is. It isn't "wrong", just illegal. Some are so quick to say that if it is illegal, then it is wrong. I believe that if it is wrong then it should be illegal (whatever the subject). The self-fulfilling logic of the anti-immigration laws never hit me till just now. But then, doesn't a nation have the right to say who can and can't come through its borders, and how many can come?


reply posted on 17-1-2008 @ 03:44 PM by SevenThunders
reply to post by obilesk



The problem is not just the immigrants who come seeking jobs, but the fact that criminals and terrorists come through our open borders. They have found Korans and jihadist literature in the border areas and they've caught Iraqis pretending to be Mexicans. No doubt Al Qaeda smuggles their bomb parts through the southern border as well.



reply posted on 4-2-2008 @ 09:46 PM by Langolier
Originally posted by obilesk
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post by uberarcanist



I never saw the logic you have presented so simply. I personally have thought that if you break the law, then the appropriate punishment should ensue. But even I, with that belief, also see that not only does the punishment rarely fit the crime, but sometimes the crime is only a crime because the law says it is. It isn't "wrong", just illegal. Some are so quick to say that if it is illegal, then it is wrong. I believe that if it is wrong then it should be illegal (whatever the subject). The self-fulfilling logic of the anti-immigration laws never hit me till just now. But then, doesn't a nation have the right to say who can and can't come through its borders, and how many can come?


Of-course they have that right. Why shouldn't they? I feel that any country has the right to say who can and cannot enter. The same as I feel that you have the right to say who can and cannot enter your home.

Also, Creedo's post was fascinating. I think I might need to purchase that book and give it a read.
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