Just what the hell is this?, page 3

reply to post by Essan

That’s a lot of facts you provided there Essan. You're the expert, so why don't you prove what your saying to be right.

You also skimmed over the majority of information there, only picking at the few things you could. Please disprove the entire piece.

OK - the construction date of Nan Madol:

NOTE: This is once again based mainly on exerts from Frank Joseph’s book – The Lost Civilisation of Lemuria, and other research i have done.

Several attempts to date Nan Madol have been carried out using Carbon-14 dating techniques. In the 1960's scientists from the Smithsonian Institute tested residue inside what they deduced was a turtle oven and came up with a habitation period of 1285ad. Additional testing on a nearby ash layer showed it was older by 200 years.
Broader thermoluminescence testing on broken pottery shards found below artificial fill at Nan Madol's Dapahu Islet dated to 2,000 years ago.

HOWEVER, pottery has never been known to be used on or near the island and the natives have no knowledge whatsoever of pottery. Additionally, all these tests prove is that someone ate a turtle at Nan Madol in the thirteenth century and that some dropped a jug there at the time of Christ. It in no way gives a construction date for Nan Madol.

Sea level analysis, study of ocean-floor sediment, and examination of surrounding semi-submerged ruins at the base of Nan Madol and in the surrounding waters of Nan Madol put the approximate date for construction at approximately 12,000 years ago.
The basic concept is that the last time that Nan Madol's underwater ruins would have been on dry land and above sea level is approximately 12,000 years ago - so unless you think some of it was intended to be built underwater then I don’t see how this could be wrong. If you want more details than that then, I’m sorry, in not a scientist and honestly can’t summarize well enough what is explained in my information. I’m obviously not making this stuff up though.

Now, to severe storm generation and the role of electromagnetic energy in their creation

Nan Madol and Kosrae (a similar structure to Nan Madol, look it up) create a 300-mile-long zone in which typhoons are born and the first stages of their power and severity are developed which soon grow much larger and wind up ravishing the Philippines. Until recently, they were thought to be the exclusive result of masses of cold air convectored into conflict with water’s warmer temperatures. Mainstream meteorologists believe cyclones are produced during a three-step process by the initial intensity of the storm, temperature changes in the air it brings about, and subsequent heat exchange with the ocean. However, late in last century, Joseph Newman declared that:

The major effect in respect to hurricanes is electromagnetic. For a hurricane to remain a hurricane, it does not depend solely on the heat of the water over which it travels.
Proof: The average temperature of the waters of the Gulf of Mexico, 20 miles of the Louisiana coast, is as follows:

July, 82 degrees F
August, 87 degrees F
September, 82 degrees F
October, 76 degrees F
November, 66 degrees F

If what the weather experts said were true, the greatest number and most destructive hurricanes would always occur in July and August, not true! Fact: The peak hurricane season is only in September – not July or August. September and October have 300 per cent more hurricanes of greater destruction than July or August, even November has 80 per cent as many hurricanes as July and August.
Therefore, Newman deduced that temperature was of secondary importance in the production of hurricanes, adding that electromagnetism was the most important factor.

Additionally, I would like to hear your explanation as to HOW Nan Madol would have been constructed if its such a common and easily explainable phenomena. There is some 200 million metric tonnes of stone built on a coral reef surrounded by ocean. If built by natives with no serious construction technology then how was it made? I believe this once again goes back to ancient lost technologies and potentially frequency manipulation and acoustic resonance. (see the Hutchinson Effect for someone who may be possibly rediscovering this technology)

Also, what is up with ATS these days?? Someone provides 40 words of argument with no facts, no discussion, just flat out denial and they get starred for that???? Where’s the open-minded and intelligent discussion and debate gone?

Anyway, I am open to intelligent argument which confirms your perspective Essan but you have not provided it so how do you expect me go along with what you’re saying.

Seriously though, just what is so hard to believe about man having colonised this planet in the past and then having been wiped out by some means?