Israel Should Move to Canada or Alaska, Ahmadinejad Says

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posted on Oct, 10 2007 @ 05:25 PM
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Why israel will never move or die is becuase the world is and has always been against us(just read half of the posts on this sight). We ran for forty years in the deserts in biblical times. We ain't running any more, end of story, get over it.




posted on Oct, 10 2007 @ 05:35 PM
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i have nothing agains thejewish people but I must agree that israel should move to another place.


Seriously? I don't think they should have to go anywhere.

There are approximately 5,313,800 Jews in Israel, Do you have a plan for getting a country to take them, and then getting them there?

Actually they all belong over there, they just need to learn how to get along, and there were times when Jews, and Muslim, and Christians, had lived peacfully side by side.



posted on Oct, 11 2007 @ 05:09 AM
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Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
And you have to look at history and realize why Iran has this hate for Israel in the first place. Israel shouldn't be there


If I go by your logic, all the people in the U.S should move back to europe because it's native american land. the english should move back to north germany and leave britain to celtic people. Hell even the celts should move back to the middle east because neolithic people own britain and ireland.



posted on Oct, 11 2007 @ 10:40 AM
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Yes, I would prefer them to be well with all the other people around or the others with them to be more precise but that seams to be impossible. Thats why this alternative should be considered...

At this time you have to accept the arabs point of view that the jews are aliens in that prt of the world.. and so on... But if the move to somewhere where they are welcome no one would be anble to discriminate them or if they did you could say they were discriminating them.

of course, we both know that nothing of this will happen, probably the arabs around will find a way to bomb israel and the israelis will respond and some countries will take part and the rest of the story we know... thats what i´d like to avoid...


fred



posted on Oct, 12 2007 @ 01:04 AM
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Why are we not blowing IRAN off the map? Why are we sitting by while they (iran) keep providing weapons to insurgents in IRAQ that keep killing US soilders? Why are we not flying planes with BOMBS and wiping their nuclear program off the map?..... Too much talk going on, not enough action. I understand the diplomacy thing.....(look bad boy, you better stop or else no snack before bed) but theres a time when ACTIONS speak LOUDER then Words! I'm glad Irans president came here and got exactly what he deserved at cloumbia university. At least some one had the god damn balls to stand up and say what everyone wanted to say to this TERRORIST! I don't see all his people who disagree with him doing anything about him.......In fact they may disagree with him but yet they still chant death to the USA...........If we are still going to "talk" to IRAN then send Pelosi over there and all the other blind liberals and let them convince him that shipping arms to insurgents is bad, before the guys with balls, show him what arms we will ship over there..........If I may quote one person, Dennis Leary, "one word, nuclear *SNIP* weapons". Like I said before, set it and forget it.......but you liberals will cry, what about all the innocent people that will be killed? They are your ENEMY! All of them! They want you DEAD, you wife, husband, kids, relatives DEAD! Don't you understand yet? THey want all of us DEAD! Kill or be killed.........All I know is I'm not going down without a fight...........and neither should you.

Mod Edit: No use of profanity please

[edit on 10/12/07 by FredT]



posted on Oct, 12 2007 @ 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by jimmycrackcorn
you liberals will cry, what about all the innocent people that will be killed?


Not just liberals cry over innocents.

So answer the question then. What about all the innocent people that will be killed?


They are your ENEMY! All of them! They want you DEAD, you wife, husband, kids, relatives DEAD! Don't you understand yet? THey want all of us DEAD! Kill or be killed.........All I know is I'm not going down without a fight...........and neither should you.



Well get on the next plane then, partner! Wait, let me guess: you will be joining the military just as soon as you get through with highschool.

We don’t need you in the U.S. and I don’t think ATS will be having a memorial thread either, so have fun over there.


[edit on 12-10-2007 by cavscout]



posted on Oct, 12 2007 @ 01:19 AM
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maybe you should go read the mindless Patriot thread :shk:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 10/12/07 by FredT]



posted on Oct, 12 2007 @ 02:14 AM
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I read posts like yours in jaw dropping astonishment.

So tell me Jimmy - if the US uses nukes in a pre-emptive first strike - which city can you afford to do without over there?

NY? LA? Chicago? Miami?

The reason that I ask is because if the US resorts to the use of nuclear weapons you can guarantee that its an almost cast iron certainty that those so-called Iranian "terrorists" - you know - the ones who have never attacked your country - will actually have been handed an incentive to go out, find a nuke and let it off over there.

Maybe they'll do it to a couple of cities or towns. Maybe your city/town? Think you'll survive the initial heat flash? What about the concussion wave? Maybe you're a bit further out of town and might get ripped to pieces by broken glass and debris? Maybe your wife and kids if you have them, or your immediate loved ones might be in the middle of the blast and you'll just die slowly of radiation poisioning.

How tough will you be then Jimmy?

How far will your total and utter ignorance and hate have got you then?

What if the Russians and Chinese realise that they are dealing with a rogue nation that employs nuclear weapons and can't stand by and let that happen any more? What if it escalates and nukes start dropping onto US cities from ICBM's?

What will your overriding "patriotism" have got you then? And what about the rest of us?

Still want to be using "nuclear *snip* weapons"?



posted on Oct, 12 2007 @ 02:39 AM
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Originally posted by jimmycrackcorn
They are your ENEMY! All of them! They want you DEAD, you wife, husband, kids, relatives DEAD! Don't you understand yet? THey want all of us DEAD! Kill or be killed.........All I know is I'm not going down without a fight...........and neither should you.



I know I should just let this garbage be, but I cant stop thinking about it. I cant sleep, Jimmy.

You do realize that "they" are thinking the exact same thing about "us" right?

They fear for their kids, for their wives.

Some of them even want to do just what you claim, kill you. Not because they just like to kill, but because they think the same way you do.

It is all hopeless. We cannot survive forever so long as people like yourself continue to vocalize your poisonous, venomous hatred of others.

I do believe that all of mankind is in peril. I can feel it in the air, we are not going to be here long. Something big is brewing.

So long as people like you continue on your course, I think that may not be such a bad thing.

It is sad we cant just live in peace and love in this world.

I pray to the Lord that he comes swiftly, I pray that our end is quick. I pray that he forgives you for your evil murderous ways, and me for mine.

Because of people like us, Jimmy, (I am a killer, I was a dedicated trooper in Iraq and you apparently wish you were) I feel bad for human kind. But then, most of us are that way to one degree or another. We deserve what is coming, and I hope it is as painless as possible.

I think you anger me so much, make me feel so sick, because I hear in your words thoughts I used to have running through my head. It makes me want to vomit.

So here is cavscout, a former U.S. Army Cavalry Man, a dedicated combat killer, praying for rain and tidal waves, all because of sick, twisted SOBs like you and me, Jimmy.

Praying for the end and for redemption I know I shouldnt have. Praying that the world ends before you get your chance to kill. And that makes me no better, praying for death again.

We are sick bastards, aren’t we?

We (the entire world) deserve each other and what we have coming.

Goodnight Jimmy, heres hoping we dont wake up


[edit on 12-10-2007 by cavscout]



posted on Oct, 12 2007 @ 04:03 AM
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Originally posted by efbeenie
Why israel will never move or die is becuase the world is and has always been against us(just read half of the posts on this sight). We ran for forty years in the deserts in biblical times. We ain't running any more, end of story, get over it.


um... the biblical story was almost completely fraudulent. especially that whole "enslavement in egypt" thing...
and that whole "we were monotheists before we got to egypt" thing...
and that whole "pharaoh's son was killed by god" thing...

and what exactly did you do after you got out of the desert?
oh yes, committed genocide, a habit you're falling back into
your country is illegitimate and a rogue state. it denies the international laws and does so happy. it commits war crimes on a daily basis.

stop feeding us the propaganda. realize the truth of the situation and compromise.
seriously, just give up jerusalem and some lands that could connect the west bank and gaza, withdraw all the admittedly illegal settlements, stop the "recognize our right to exist" crap, and start treating palestinians equally



posted on Oct, 12 2007 @ 06:06 PM
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+1



posted on Oct, 12 2007 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by FredT
maybe you should go read the mindless Patriot thread :shk:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 10/12/07 by FredT]


If it is what he REALLY believes then he should be allowed to express his opinions. Its just as valid as the filth that gets spewed in the opposite direction. Where is the mindless Anti-Patriot thread?



posted on Oct, 12 2007 @ 06:09 PM
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And I don't care.....
Good post BTW!



posted on Oct, 12 2007 @ 06:11 PM
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posted on Oct, 12 2007 @ 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by FredT
reply to post by 4thDoctorWhoFan
 


www.abovetopsecret.com...


Thank you!
I thought you were refering to a ATS rule. Glad to see its not so.

However the thread you linked to should be banned for lunacy!



posted on Oct, 13 2007 @ 12:58 AM
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Cav, in your post you say I should run out and join the military after highschool right? Already did that brother. Signed right up, why? Because everyone should experience the military life. I Joined in 1994 to FIGHT for MY COUNTRY, just as you did. As for your the rest of your post........I agree with you on some points. I'm not a so called "killer of all". This is just the mind set when you have religious radicals and their talk. Why is it no one wants to fight for our brothers and sisters over there? Why is it no one wants to stop the killing of our soilders by an outside force not involved? Why do they continue to ship missles and explosives to insurgents? We have the proof? No one has answered this question. "They" are quick to jump on me because I say kill them all? They all want to kill you and your family! We the US are not on TV holding rallies saying "death to Iran"? But they are? Do you honestly believe that I would want innocents killed? No, I wouldn't......Just as I wouldn't want them to kill innocents here. But what makes you innocent is the question? Lets just say I'm in uniform and stationed outside of a police station there, and some 13yo kid blows up a bomb belt and kills you me and 13 other people. I wasn't doing anything but standing there. Am I innocent? I'm just a person that would rather fight then run...........I think the US has to continue to fund homeland security because eventually some sort of radioactive material, wheather a bomb or what ever will get here. They will blow up innocent people in LA or NY, or some where else and what? We should just sit back and let them spew hate toward US everyday and not try to stop them first? You all have your opinions and I have mine. You are free to choose to say what ever you like every day. But best believe you want people that think a certain way on your side when "the time comes". We are the ones that do the "dirty" work when you won't. We are the ones you secretly thank for going the "extra mile" when that time comes.................Belive what you want, thats your right! For now.....



posted on Oct, 13 2007 @ 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by jimmycrackcorn
Why is it no one wants to fight for our brothers and sisters over there?


Because they dont belong there.



Why is it no one wants to stop the killing of our soilders by an outside force not involved?


We do. That is why we want them home.


They all want to kill you and your family!


Who does? Iraqis? Iranians? Israelis?

Everyone in the ME, or just the darker ones?



We are the ones that do the "dirty" work when you won't. We are the ones you secretly thank for going the "extra mile" when that time comes.................Belive what you want, thats your right! For now.....


You? You are posting from Iraq?

I was there. I saw first hand what we are doing, what we are stoping.

A bunch of people who live in a ation that is no threat to us want to live in peace.

We refuse to let them.

With your attitude I think you would be in the streets fighting an invader if the roles were reversed. Why cant you then understand why they do the same?

[edit on 13-10-2007 by cavscout]



posted on Oct, 13 2007 @ 02:01 AM
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Cav, we do belong there. We the US speak for all the oppressed people in the world. We welcome them here into our country to be free from all the oppression in their respective countries. You know all to well what the US stands for. WE are liberators not invaders. We got rid of a tyrant leader in IRAQ, and by doing that how many of IRAQ's citizens did we/you save? Hundreds? Thousands? Now we are faced with a country (IRAN) who wants to destabilize what we are trying to build....a democratic country. Giving people freedoms that they never had before. Now they want to stick their nose in something, because they are viewed as a terrorist state and they can't have nuclear weapons.........I'm all for building a better country. There are systems of checks and balances in place to legitify your nuclear programs........Prove your just using nuclear energy for electricity and not for bombs to kill your neighbors or MY FELLOW COUNTRY MEN, then by all means have at it hoss. But you want to defy the IAEA and not follow the checks and balances that every other country follows then you should be held accountable. If that means a "group" of countries collectively agrees that you are not "doing" what you say your "doing" then you lose that chess piece (Nuc program). It's all a game......But I still don't want to see on MY TV Iranians chanting DEATH to the USA! Thats bull#! When you were in IRAQ i'm sure you met people or citizens there that were so greatful that YOU were there! Greatful that "someone" finally came and stood up for them! I'm standing up for MY COUNTRY! Here in the USA! Do I wish I was over there? NO. Do I want our soilders over there? NO. Are they there for a good reason? Yes. I am here doing my part..........a police officer. I'm the one that will respond to the first sign of a terrorist strike. So I'm already on the front line, even if I'm not in IRAQ. And I would just like to say thank you for your service to OUR country. Glad you made it home.



posted on Oct, 13 2007 @ 03:28 AM
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Originally posted by jimmycrackcorn
We the US speak for all the oppressed people in the world.


Do we? Can you give us a quote from the Bush Administration on what they thought about the Myanmar rebellion?


We welcome them here into our country to be free from all the oppression in their respective countries.


You mean the few hundred of Iraqis who were admitted here as citizens, when we promised tens of thousands of Iraqi refugees, from the millions who fled Iraq?


We got rid of a tyrant leader in IRAQ, and by doing that how many of IRAQ's citizens did we/you save?


Was this before or after Saddam? Who put all the Iraqi lives in danger by putting Saddam in power in the first place?



Now we are faced with a country (IRAN) who wants to destabilize what we are trying to build....a democratic country.


Perhaps you can show us where Iran said they wanted to destroy American or its democracy.


Giving people freedoms that they never had before.


Nothing like the freedom for an Iraqi to remain in their home during curfew hours or risk being suspected as an insurgent and shot.


Now they want to stick their nose in something, because they are viewed as a terrorist state and they can't have nuclear weapons


They never said they wanted nuclear weapons, and the only ones calling them the terrorist state are the same ones who have no problem turning a blind eye when Israel's goverment kills innocents.


But you want to defy the IAEA and not follow the checks and balances that every other country follows then you should be held accountable.


Which IAEA rules did Iran not follow?



If that means a "group" of countries collectively agrees that you are not "doing" what you say your "doing" then you lose that chess piece (Nuc program).


Bad news for Israel then, I guess. Oh wait, they get to keep their nuclear technology, because they are the exception in this world.


It's all a game......But I still don't want to see on MY TV Iranians chanting DEATH to the USA!


Good thing no one in the US cries "death to Iran," or tries to start a pre-emtive strike and war with them, cause then it would just be hypocrisy, wouldn't it?



posted on Oct, 13 2007 @ 03:36 AM
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Originally posted by jimmycrackcorn
But you want to defy the IAEA and not follow the checks and balances that every other country follows then you should be held accountable. If that means a "group" of countries collectively agrees that you are not "doing" what you say your "doing" then you lose that chess piece (Nuc program).


OK. So you are all for nuking Israel, India and Pakistan then, because they never complied with the IAEA?





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