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The Bible = Storybook

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posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 01:58 AM
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Does anyone feel science is proving the Bible and it's religous myths to be nothing more than a ficticious storybook?




posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 02:37 AM
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I think you have it backwards, lately science has been proving the relevancy of the bible in many ways.



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by THENEO
I think you have it backwards, lately science has been proving the relevancy of the bible in many ways.


Indeed. Agree with you there Neo. Especially the science of genetics are thoroughly witnessed in the Bible. The story of Genesis 1 shows the process of colonising a planet more or less exactly the way we would have done it today (if we could only get out there that is....)

Blessings,
Mikromarius



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by kramtronix
Does anyone feel science is proving the Bible and it's religous myths to be nothing more than a ficticious storybook?



Not to my knowledge, no. Quite the opposite, in fact. My own conclusions have drawn me to believe, however, that the bible is no more likely to be true than the events described in the Silmarillion, by J.R.R. Tolkein.



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by kramtronix
Does anyone feel science is proving the Bible and it's religous myths to be nothing more than a ficticious storybook?



Ummm, you're going to have to come up with at least one example of where science refuted the bible, because I've never found one...



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 12:32 PM
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Hmm..I'm not sure I have seen it prove anything right, yet..but, The Bible WAS written at a time when the people had nothing, nothing to hope for, nothing to live for. Doesn't it seem quite a coincidence that someone would write this book, to give them something to hope for, something to live for, when, in reality, they had nothing? This is true, they HAD NOTHING, but they needed something to justify their lives, The Bible did this. Most of the events in the Bible talks about things in relativity back then, not today, so, I believe, it hasn't justified anything in modern history, only ancient history.

-wD



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 01:44 PM
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I have to agree with THENEO on this as well. Science is in fact proving that the stories in the Bible are accurate, however some have been embellished a little and modified through translation.

In my opinion, the story of Noah's Ark, and the divinity of Jesus Christ are a little embellished. Some of that just doesn't make since when you put logical thought behind it. But the root of the story's are true. Science has proven that.



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by THENEO
I think you have it backwards, lately science has been proving the relevancy of the bible in many ways.



yup yup. its pretty weird



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by junglejake
Ummm, you're going to have to come up with at least one example of where science refuted the bible, because I've never found one...


Can science prove a miracle?

Loaves/fishes
parting the sea
walking on water

Respectfully,
BG



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 01:54 PM
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The Bible is a "storybook" based on real people (who actually lived and had these adventures) but embellished in a way to teach lessons, set morals and values, spread faith, and instill fear in those who might question its validity.



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by beergoggles

Can science prove a miracle?

Loaves/fishes
parting the sea
walking on water

Respectfully,
BG


The question is, can you prove it was a miracle and not an anomally of nature? I don't classify that as a miracle.

Embelishments. That's really what it comes down to. I can't speak for the Loaves/fishes issues, but read this article about the Red Sea.

washingtontimes.com...



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by beergoggles

Originally posted by junglejake
Ummm, you're going to have to come up with at least one example of where science refuted the bible, because I've never found one...


Can science prove a miracle?

Loaves/fishes
parting the sea
walking on water

Respectfully,
BG


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Science just proved parting the Red Sea.

I don't think Jesus walked on water. Unless that was the impression of what he was doing, but it was a trick. Don't think "miracles" are all magic. EVERYTHING looked like a miracle to those primitive people 2 thousand years ago. TV would be a miracle, a watch, you name it.. all the stuff we have now would all be miracles to them. So as you can see, you can prove a lot of things that 2 yrs ago were 'miracles'. They exaggerate a lot when telling these stories and often don't tell the whole truth and add in their own stuff.. as with all stories. But some stories are based on truth, or possible truth anyway, like that Red Sea story.



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 02:08 PM
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lilblam,

agreed, high tech appears as magic to those not familiar with it.



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by lilblam
Science just proved parting the Red Sea.


Did it?

I believe that it is impossible for a scientist to objectively study something and form an unbiased hypothesis concerning a belief or culture outside of their own.
What else would you expect the conclusion to be from a man who declared "I am convinced that God rules the Earth through the laws of physics."
My intention is not to discredit Christianity, but to question whether science can prove a religious belief.

BG



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 02:45 PM
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Well the Red Sea didn't split into 2 halves as stated in the story. But at high enough wind, it was possible to walk over a shallow coral reef that stretches the length of the sea. Now, it's not exactly PARTING IT, but what if when people saw "angels" descend to Earth, it was also not exactly angels, but shiny UFO's? What word would they use for UFO's back then? Especially if the people who come "out" of UFO's seem to have magical powers and can telepathically communicate inside the people's mind, and most importantly CLAIM to be Gods or God and his angels. How easy do you think that one would be pulled off 2000 years ago?

Do you think it'd be hard to hyper-dimensional, timeless 4th density aliens to predict something in the Bible, and then orchestrate it to MAKE it happen in our lives, so that we can say "ooh the Bible was right", when in reality "the predictions were carefully orchestrated in our time from behind the scenes... so yeah".

Also, the scientific concepts that the aliens told humans back then, are proven now to maybe be true. The thing is, religious people think that means it really WAS God who wrote the Bible, because in their minds, it was either God or man. Since man could not have known the stuff, it must've been God. What happened to Aliens exactly? Oh that's right, Aliens are just a silly conspiracy theory, you'd have to be some kind of nut to believe in stuff like Aliens pretending to be Gods.

Of course you don't have to be a NUT to believe in a separate all-powerful entity that created everything that is, gives people a life, and then you get to go live with it in an eternally-blissful state (or place) called Heaven. And you think ALIENS are a crazy idea? Well the religious people need to reconsider their definition of crazy...



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 02:53 PM
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Just a thought, but I think that science can definately disprove most things in the bible if they are taken literally such as,

"20:11
Isaiah the prophet cried unto the Lord: and he brought the shadow ten degrees backward, by which it had gone down in the dial of Ahaz."

How is it possible to move the earth backwards, just to please one man?

and

"The stone became a great mountain that filled the whole earth."
This could only be possible on a flat, disc-shaped earth.

But if the stories are not to be taken literally then what credibility does the bible have if it cannot be translated and understood directly?

Just a thought...

[Edited on 24-1-2004 by MrEisenhower]



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by lilblam
Of course you don't have to be a NUT to believe in a separate all-powerful entity that created everything that is, gives people a life, and then you get to go live with it in an eternally-blissful state (or place) called Heaven. And you think ALIENS are a crazy idea? Well the religious people need to reconsider their definition of crazy...




Well, I think your post is kinda correct in some ways, just read the start of Ezekiel and hey presto, interplanetary spacecraft!

But the proof of Aliens themselves are shaky.*cough*experimental aircraft*cough*

-M.E.



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 03:40 PM
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And when Jesus said he's coming back on a cloud... you better hope that cloud isn't made of water vapor.. because just as Jesus jumps his ass out of Heaven, he'd realise you cannot actually sit on clouds, and before you know it... he's roadkill somewhere...

So, it would make sense if he meant a flying spacecraft of some sort... but where on Earth would he get such an idea? .. oh ok so not on Earth



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by beergoggles

Originally posted by junglejake
Ummm, you're going to have to come up with at least one example of where science refuted the bible, because I've never found one...


Can science prove a miracle?

Loaves/fishes
parting the sea
walking on water

Respectfully,
BG



oh this is going to be good!


JERRY JERRY JERRY!



posted on Jan, 25 2004 @ 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by KrazyIvan

Originally posted by beergoggles

Originally posted by junglejake
Ummm, you're going to have to come up with at least one example of where science refuted the bible, because I've never found one...


Can science prove a miracle?

Loaves/fishes
parting the sea
walking on water

Respectfully,
BG



oh this is going to be good!


JERRY JERRY JERRY!


What if he was an advertiser? And he made an invitation where he wrote.

[invitation]Congratulation, you have been invited to the desert rave! Remember to bring your own loaves and fishes. Seven loaves and a couple of fish should sufficient for everyone, if those who have share with those who don't have. I have twelve servants with me to help us out distributing the bread and fish etc. aswell as cleaning up after us afterwards.

Your's Truely,
Jesjuah.[/invitation]

Blessings,
Mikromarius

[Edited on 25-1-2004 by mikromarius]



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