Cop Pepper Sprays, Punches, Nearly Breaks Girl's Arm During Curfew Arrest

I think this is a very good point. I think that those of you who are defending this child abusing cop need to think about if that was your kid or young family member. The training of these cops needs to all be thrown out if they can't cuff a little girl without having to pepper spray and punch them. I bet watching tape of that cop trying to cuff a grown man like himself is funny as hell. What a whimp!

yup.
thats what it says.

it also says

"Well, she did that after his aggressive behavior. He never stated why he was apprehending her. Her rights were never read to her; she was violated all the way," Smith said.


is that procedure?

My goodness you guys defending the girl in this case are the reason things will not get better. The kids of today have no respect at all for the most part and need to be taught how to be responsible for their actions. Parents of teens should be ashamed of the job they are doing. Everyone wants to play the system to the max and its getting old. If you are a good parent and have decent kids good for you, your getting rare.

I would never defend a "bad" cop, people with authority MUST be held to higher standards for their roles in the public eye. But dont fall for the racist, nazi mold your being fed by the mainstream media. This stuff is out there, but just because the girl is black and the cop white should not change anything, shes a person resisting arrest and hes a guy doing his job.

The officer tried to get her in the backseat without cuffs, she wouldnt do it, He did try everything he could, He was not holding her tightly, probably for fear of hurting her and no need to go to that level yet, and she took advantage of it and did what she did, it left him no choice but to go to the next level.

Miranda policies vary, but most places in my experience have up to 24hours to read you your rights or release you. You really only see people read their rights immediately if the police intend to question them.

respect is earned. maybe people don't respect the cops anymore cause of how they treat people.
i am not defending the girl more as i am not defending the cop. there is a difference, at least in my opinion.
also, according to the article, he didn't do everything he could have done....he didn't readher her rights or let her know what she was being arrested for...
that might have helped to calm her down. sure, she would still be scared but maybe she would relax a little knowing the deal...either way, the cops are supposed to tell you why you are getting arested.
he did everything he could cause he 'probably' didn't want to hurt her but after the attempted bite on the gloved hand, forget it right.
then it's cool to rock her with an uppercut to the face...i know, lets punch her in the face first, get some blood flowing out the nose and THEN spray her with the pepper spray...
i am not condong what the girl did but she is a 15 year old kid. in these situations, the cops are SUPPOSED to be the composed ones that do things the right way...
that is not what i see lately.

damn. i didn't know that.

24 hour window...
what do you think that is all about?
to give the fuzz a chance to hold/detain you while they decide if they can actually arrest you...like a 'law/rule' that buys them a little time?

I do not see anything wrong with this other than a spoiled brat that thinks she is above the law.

Whereas I am generally against the police using excessive force, this young "lady" had it coming. She failed repeatedly to follow his orders and then assaulted him. Under the circumstances, I would say this cop used restraint.

Give me a break.

You people who are criticizing the cop are displaying a level of naivete and entitlement that is a reflection of the spoiled brat attitude the black girl on the video displayed.

Check this out... if a cop stops you and tells you to do something, you just listen and do it. You don't get to decide if you want to do it or not. You don't get to decide right then and there that you are innocent, and therefore that you do not have to obey what the cop tells you to do.

The cop did not commit child abuse, and making claims of such really is an insult to all the children who are real victims of child abuse. This perp was a 15-year old who did not just simply disobey the cop, she physically attacked him. The physical attack is what prompted the punch to the face and the pepper spray.

Get over it already. Every arrest is not a reason to vilify a cop. Every black perp is not a victim of police abuse. This is not the 60's and cops generally are not referred to as the fuzz anymore.

And by the way, if this happened to one of my kids, I would thank the cop and ground my kid for about two years for acting like an ass. I would also tell my kid that she was lucky that all she got was a sore jaw and a face full of pepper spray.

Simply put, you cannot resist arrest and assault a cop and expect them to call in Dr. Phil to discuss your feelings about it.

i guess that is my problem..

i don't like 'just doing' things...
i am not to hip to this comply or else mentality...

Get used to it, it's part of living in a police state.
You do not, under any circumstances, question authority figures.

Only absolute obedience makes freedom possible.

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well, i question all authority so, i guess i will continue to have to deal with their BS.
sucks but what else can be done?
i'm not gonna bend over and grab my ankles cause some copper told me to.

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Exactly. It's not the cops job to press charges. It's the cops job to detain a suspect until a prosecutor can decide to press charges. That's how it has always been.

This is why people get so emotional about issues like this. They simply were ignorant of how the law works before getting it shoved abruptly in their faces. None of this is unusual or out-of-line... it's just the way the system has always worked. Whether or not the system is broken is another debate entirely.

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By the way, you do not have to do everything a cop tells you to do. Know your rights. The cops are counting on you not knowing them and happy to take full advantage of you if you don't.

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[edit on 9-10-2007 by Kryon]

Look this cop like every cop is trained to go after real bad guys and he couldn't handle a 15 year old girl without punching her. I don't care what she did he has all that training and he can't cuff her without punching her?

Oh and I already knew to do what ever a cop says because they do what ever they want. This girl is the one who didn't know that she found out the hard way

Exactly I would have put her tail in the squad car and call her parents. She is a minor and she should be treated as such. I would treat her like she was my daughter or son. And the officers should treat the minors as such. I know she was resisting some and I did hear her say I'm sorry several times. But she resisted more when her arms got twisted back at a very sharp angle mind you and slammed on the car hood a few times. He was hurting her and thats why she bite him. I've been bitten before yes it hurts but that dosen't give me the right to punch the kid or pepper spray her in the face. I would have took it.

You make absolutely no sense. First, about the arm -it was being bent in the same direction that the elbow joint is supposed to bend. Bend your arm right now and you will notice you can bend it all the way in one direction. The resistance had NOTHING to do with her arm being bent.

Further, it is a complete distortion to say her arm was almost broken. It wasn't almost broken.

She didn't bite the cop because he was holding her left arm. She bit him when he grabbed her right arm and was in a position to cuff both her hands behind her back. Further, she didn't get slammed on the hood. He was pinning her against the hood in an attempt to get her cuffed.




Wrong again in more ways than one.

Comparing what you have the right to do with what the cop was doing is a false argument. The cop a) had the right to detain her, and b) had the right to use physical force when she resisted. And please do not try to distort this again by downplaying her level of resistance. She totally resisted to the point of physically attacking the cop.

What I really am missing here from all you people who criticize the cop is the total lack of putting any blame on the girl.

Even the O.J. jury would find this girl guilty of resisting arrest if they saw the video.

You moron, you would have taken a bite? You would have left her, in that state, without handcuffing her?

I hope you never, EVER are an officer of a law.

She did bite the Officer..His natural reaction was to hit her, then he peper sprayed her so she would not be able to see so she could bite again. Dont get me wrong I dont trust most cops , But the media is gonna try to spin this to make it look like the cop decided that night "humm I feel like beating up a black person tonight" When the incident had nothing to do with race.