Cop Pepper Sprays, Punches, Nearly Breaks Girl's Arm During Curfew Arrest

No, you have it completely backwards.

If the girl was white the major news networks wouldn\'t care and you would have never seen the video. In case you missed it, if a perp is black, the media template is to paint the perp as a victim of some sort of racial injustice. Since the Jena 6 story worked so well, the media tried to follow that up with this story.

Here\'s a similar case in point. A few weeks back, two kids were stabbed by their older brother. One died, the other was critically injured. The perp was running loose in the town outside of Pittsburgh. All day long the media was reporting the story, and reporting that the perp was loose. But the media purposely didn't report that the perp was black because of "political correctness."

The obnoxious 15-year old in the video got smacked in the face and pepper sprayed because she bit the cop. Biting a cop because he\'s arresting you is not justified no matter how innocent you think you are, or what color your skin. Biting a cop will lead to being forcibly taken into custody.

Notice how quickly the girl allowed herself to be handcuffed once she got a face full of pepper spray. Poor victim. Her eyes burnt for a few minutes. I\'m sure it hurt, which it was supposed to.

[edit on 8-10-2007 by robert z]

I've worked with police officers on numerous occasions (try being the press who looks through their records every single day - you get to know them very well very quickly).

That being said, there are good cops and there are bad cops. Just from reading arrest records, I knew there were some officers in my town that I did NOT want pulling me over for anything.

Unlike most people here seem to believe, though, the majority of cops ARE NOT just out to get you, or to bully innocent people.

I agree wholeheartedly with the people who are saying this girl was being a brat. I can almost guarantee that this girl was probably facing authority for the first time, and thought that by throwing enough of a fit, she could get out of trouble.

Because that's exactly what her behavior was: a hissy fit.

The officer CLEARLY says "Put your hands behind your back" numerous times (I lost count), and she refuses. Had she put her hands behind her back without incident, the worst that would have happened (if she was only apprehended for a curfew violation) is she would have been placed in the back of a police car, her parents would've been called, and she would've been sent home with a fine.

Curfew violations are NOT a Nazi-esque invention to control the public. Teen gang activity is at its highest overnight - as is drug peddling, prostitution, DUI, and public intoxication. By trying to keep kids out of that environment, officers are protecting them more than anything else.

She was stupid, plain and simple. She could've complied, but our society seems bent on glorifying young teens - and it's also making a point of not making them responsible for their actions. Some of you are saying "Oh! She's just a child! How terrible!" No. She's 15, and she should definitely know better than to resist an officer.

As for him hitting her then pepper spraying her in the face - it was justified. Officers put up with a lot of bull on a daily basis, and I, for one, greatly admire them for putting themselves into the line of fire so I can sit at home, do homework, and much on corn chips without worry. If I'd been that officer, and she'd bitten me, I would've had a hard time to only hit her ONCE. Human mouths are disgusting things - they're more bacteria-ridden, even, than dog mouths. I'd rather be bitten by a dog than a crazed, possibly drugged teenager.


[edit on 8-10-2007 by Zyanith] To correct spelling and wording problems.

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Very Unbelievable!! And you are so right, this is a dangerous game being played!! Thanks for bringing this to the light. We need to keep an eye out for these things.. It seems to be happening more and more over the last few months..

I live in Flori-duh. This place is full of ignorance and hate. Cops know that every situation can escalate into something bad and are supposed to be prepared. Obviously 3 cops getting shot in the head in 2 weeks tells you cops need to beware. But I surely dont think punching a 15 year old girl in the face is called for. He should have been trained how to apprehend a somewhat violent teen without punching her in the face.
The cop who gets his clock cleaned in that video was completly unprepaired, and should have been able to draw his weapon (either his night stick or his gun) to prevent that beating, but he was obviously not a fighter and did not know what to do. Being a cop must be extreamly hard, and only some people have what it takes to be a good one. Too many people become cops so they can act on their prejudice and they are the ones that are often unprepaird for what dangers they face, and only know one way to handle it. There needs to be a better way to handle teenagers. I dont think I have the answres but there must be a better way.
Sorry about the spelling.

imo if she wasnt being such a btch then it woulda went smoothly.

What a hero. We all need to be protected form those Rabid 15 year old girls. Looks to me like he is almost posing for the camera in his car while he man-handles her. He sure didn't try very hard to restrain her IMO. He just wanted to show this girl how the "Good old Boys" handle being out past cerfew. If he, (Mr. Police man) can't handle this 100 lb girl whithout haveing to bust out the non-lethal weapons, mayby it is time to find a new job.

My god, what have you guys becomed, your society is pro violence, and you wonder why no one likes you anymore and why everyone avoids you, a little girl just broke the curfew, I would of just put her in the back seat with out cufing her, if I wanted to cuf her it's clear that I could of done it with out punching her and with out using the spray.
Punching a 15 years old, your society and you people deserve what is happening to you, what a bunch of garbige, this would never ever happen around here.

The policeman handled his job nearly perfectly. His error was being TOO lenient to the girl resisting arrest. His leniency resulted in her being able to attack him because he gave her too many warnings.

Here's a news flash for you. When a police officer detains a suspect, obeying his commands is not optional. Like it or not, this is the rule of law. A suspect doesn't get to unilaterally decide that he or she is innocent, and simply walk away from the situation.

The girl got punched in the face and pepper sprayed ONLY AFTER she bit him. The responsibility for this is on her, not the policeman who was doing exactly what his job required him to do.

Well if that's the attitude of Florida law enforcement and their supporters, it's no wonder they're getting shot so often lately

As a cop in Philly I spoke to once pointed out to me, 90% of a police officer's job is restraint. This cop showed very little from what I can see.

What ever happend to taking that little girl home and talking to her parents instead.
She was clearly scared, 15 and very skiny, why even arest her, maybe she was lost? she looked very scared.
It's not like she was holding a gun or robed some one, it's clear she was confused and scared, why even make an arest?
The way she looked I think I would of asked her, are you alright, little girl, are you lost? ...Always a better solution than punching the little girl in the face?

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I have been working this out last few days. I decided to Strike at the root for a moment.If drugs, and prostitution were legal there would be very little crime. So the war on drugs, and prostitution are the real problem not the officers, and citizens. Face it people want drugs they will kill for them, make them availible. They going to get them whether you like it or not.Alot of people get into drugs because they are illegal.Make them legal people get bored and dont do them as much?Scum lords love the drugs illegal though they need criminals to feed the fear machine.


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Uh...if some little bitch is trying to bite me, I'm going to defend myself. That includes punching. Assaulting a police officer is a BIG DEAL.

What the hell do you think he should have done, let her bite him? Jesus Christ, I'm one of the most anti-establishment people I know and even I can see that the police officer used a lot of restraint while handling her.
She was resisting arrest and tried to assault him. He would have been justified in really giving her a beating, but he didn't.


Whether or not it was right to arrest her in the first place is a moot point. The justification of the curfew laws that were being enforced is completely irrelevant. We need to focus on the fact that she was resisting arrest and assaulting an officer of the law. A police officer must defend himself under these circumstances. Yes, he should have probably been better at restraining and handcuffing her (that probably shows you that they aren't trained as well as they should be), but you can't go off and say that he was using too much force in that situation.

[edit on 9-10-2007 by Johnmike]

Iv'e seen far worse happen on the streets of oldham in my own home town in the uk on a friday night this is minor incident. I don't see the big deal the girl broke a law tried to bite the officer. What I don't agree with is the punch to the face but it's a natrural instict to hit out if something attacks you "survival instinct" He gave her enough chances and he sshould have either called for assistants or just give her a spary to the face nd slaped the cuffs on but I'm no police officer so the above is only my take on it.

why is it moot? cause you said so...

i think t is a very valid point. IF she was 3 hours past curfew, staggering drunk, causing a disturbance than i say yeah, at the point that we see it is moot.... however, if she was minding her buisness a block away from her house a minute after curfew and the cop decided to brace her, i think it is very much valid.

if she was minding her biz and he never stopped her, then it wouldn't have happened..that is one way to look at it.
is she was not out after curfew it wouldn't have happened either....
it happened though.

cop couldn't handle a small girl. shame

all of this 'comply no matter' what crap is part of the problem too.

seems though this is only acceptable if you are a cop.

i am not saying to go out and hit the cops but you know, regular ole citizens have instincts too. regular ole citizens get scared too.

sometimes, the cops kinda pop up outta nowhere and it gets you going.

not every cop approaches the situation in a 'decent' manner either.

i see lots of people on all boards defending cops if they hit a suspect cause it is 'natural instinct'...

it works both ways though.

No big deal, not like she was biteing his head off.
Any way she bit him because he was torturing her, she bit him because she was scared.


I duno ... give up cufing her? and take her home? and take it up wth her parents? give them a warning instead?


Yes jesus crist like she took a gun and shoot some one, cuff her, I would not be surprised if the cufs just went off after that , I don't think they went well on her hand, didint even fit her...
She even said....I'm sorry , I'm sorry..



is that what you call an asault? if I'm a 15 year old kid I might not know what the law is?

Yes I know the red neck mentality, it's really no surprise to me that you see it this way.

This whole situation never should have even got to the level that it was taken to. The Cop, once he decided to make a arrest should have put her in cuffs and been done with it. He had other alternative motives on his mind IMO. Drags her to the front if his vehicle so she can be on camera then half handles her escalating the situation even higher. He wanted the situation to get out of control IMO. Not professional behavior for a cop. How many kids do you know that bite? Nearly all kids do that growing up. I am not saying that the girl was right in doing that and she probably learned a lesson, but what kind of officer thinks its ok to bust a 15 year old girl in the face for any reason. She was resisting arrest but the cop is trained (supposedly) to gain control of a suspect and get cuffs on. Hummm... How long did this get drug out for? We just saw what was on the camera side. Once your under arrest it's over. Get the cuffs on right then and there 1st priority. None of this posing for the camera stuff. I am sorry but a little girl isn't going to put up a lasting fight agenst a male police officer. The way the cop handled this was very questionable IMO. Are our police going to hold kids to the same level as adults and expect kids to understand their rights when they may not have even learned about them in school yet? Some of our cops seem to have forgotten what it is to be a "Good Guy". Also when was it socially acceptable to punch women and children for any reason? Just because he is a cop doesn't mean that he is exempt from obeying the law as well does it? Guaranteed that if he wasn't a cop and he punched a girl this age for any reason he would be looking at some serious trouble.

Thank you for that addition to this thread. Many a cop have escorted women and children to DV shelters and arrested men for that very behavior. All a man would have to say in his defense is "she tried to bite me so I knocked her a good one" and he is excused. Doesn't work that way does it? Violence in not the answer to the problems in our society in any form.

Well stated.

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Apparently, she was stealing clothes also.

dntwastetime...

Thanks for a GREAT topic for our ATS MIX Show 27!

Dave