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Topic started on 5-10-2007 @ 06:39 PM by dntwastetime
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Cop Pepper Sprays, Punches, Nearly Breaks Girl's Arm During Curfew Arrest
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 Another shocking example of police brutality has been caught on camera showing a cop nearly breaking a girl's arm, punching her and then
pepper spraying her in the face as she cries after being arrested for violating a city curfew (visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 06:39 PM by dntwastetime
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Unbelievable video, absolutly disgraceful conduct to this young lady. Our American police no longer are the "Peace Officers" ,instead they are
trained that the public is the enemy. The new title is "Law enforcement". The police need to realize they are public servants, there actions are
being broadcast to the web . The power of the web has been a effective tool for demonstrating how our officers are abusing the position. This is
danerous game to play.
www.prisonplanet.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 06:46 PM by Beachcoma
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They have curfews in Florida? Why?
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 06:54 PM by enjoies05
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Originally posted by dntwastetime
The power of the web has been a effective tool for demonstrating how our officers are abusing the position. 
You're on PrisonPlanet. Do you think they are going to tell stories of how the Police stopped a shooting? How they helped someone like they do most
of the time? I don't think so. All they show is the rare "bad cop" to turn people against them as a whole.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 07:02 PM by JacKatMtn
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In this case, not like the other recent incidents of the misuse of pepper spray and tasers, the officer was well within his rights to spray this
youth.
The girl was not cooperating, physically resisting and if you watch the tape closely, the officer sprayed her after the girl bit (or attempted
to bite him on his right hand/wrist area.)
One of the most infectious bites is a human bite.
I am upset as well over the recent mace and taser misuse by the police.
This time I have to say it was justified.
edit: spelling AGAIN
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 07:03 PM by AnAbsoluteCreation
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As unfortunate as that scene was to watch, the girl should've listened. Plain and simple. Cops aren't taught how to react nicely when a perp
isn't cooperating. She bit him, and he punched her. I am all for flaming a bad cop, but this guy was just at the wrong place, doing his job, at the
wrong time.
The girl was crazily uncooperative. What would you have done? It didn't get ugly until she bit him.
AAC
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 07:16 PM by intrepid
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This was a complete POS. Notice the cop looking at the camera? Gotta make sure this is on camera. He says, "I'll use force Ma'am" like he wasn't
already? She goes what, 100lbs? He could have subdued her with body weight. And that bite? ON HIS GLOVES? This is # made to make the cops look bad
imo. I'm not saying there isn't bad cops, there are, but this is just a propaganda piece.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 07:19 PM by apc
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What a stupid little twit. I wanted to reach into my screen and smack the drama queen out of her.
The officer gave her more than enough chances to cooperate. He was wise to make sure every second was caught on camera.
Using a taser would have gone too far. This level of force was 100% justified.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 07:19 PM by AlphaHumana
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A lot of cities have curfews for minors (some places they're only for under 16 year old kids) on weekday evenings, it's nothing sinister. From what
I've seen they're almost never enforced (I've never seen one enforced) unless the kid is already doing something disruptive - even the universal
curfews we had down here after Katrina/Wilma/Rita were unenforced (and they were actually put into place for a very good reason.)
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 07:20 PM by dntwastetime
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All very good points above, as usual from these members. I do believe though he was going overboard with her arms though. I think he should have
conducted himself in a more appropriate manner considering she was just a little girl. The girl did not bite him until he was at the point of breaking
both arms. The arms were not in a position to submit because of the pressures exertet.This was a strong male in his 30's he could have ended the
situation differently, like hancuffing her one hand to something until a fellow officer arrived to help.
I dont believe punching children in the face is appropriate even though, yes, the bite is a sure infectious wound. I agree about prisonplanet, I do
not however see many good police videos, any links? I have had nothing but ok experiances with police, but I acted accordingly to there authority, and
knew I did something wrong to be in the situation. the girl will probably suffer for many years with the arm sockets, The young can strech more, a
adult would have been dislocated more than not with this kind of pressure.
Tough call, but for me, I see this particular policeman going too far.
DWT
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 07:21 PM by deltaboy
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A little girl? She is 15 years old and doing a very good job resisting until the very end.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 07:24 PM by apc
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Originally posted by dntwastetime
The girl did not bite him until he was at the point of breaking both arms. 
That's what police are supposed to do. Instead of fighting back she would have been wise to simply comply. Hell, she would have been wise to comply
in the first place rather than act like a five year old who doesn't want to go to bed yet.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 07:27 PM by intrepid
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Originally posted by deltaboy
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A little girl? She is 15 years old and doing a very good job resisting until the very end. 
Oh please. A 100lb 15 yo girl? Hell one of my legs almost weigh that. Big white cop, small black girl. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out
this is a video to divide the masses. Even those that support the cops.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 07:28 PM by Johnmike
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She was resisting, then tried to bite him.
He was completely justified in his use, I think that force was completely fitting for the situation, and I don't often side with cops.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 07:29 PM by deltaboy
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Originally posted by intrepid
Oh please. A 100lb 15 yo girl? Hell one of my legs almost weigh that. Big white cop, small black girl. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out
this is a video to divide the masses. Even those that support the cops. 
Big white cop having a hard time getting her hands behind her back to hangcuff on her. Lets see you try that.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 07:30 PM by dntwastetime
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True True, all true I am not disputing you all. I personaly consider a 15 year old a little girl. Young Lady maybe would be the better term , either
way. I cant say for sure because I never was in this kind of situation,I would have lifted her up ,put her in the back of the car once she resited too
much, or like I said draged her to a place and hancuffed one hand and called for more police.Easy for a outsider to say, and easier said than done I
know.
Propaganda piece, sure that makes sense. This video maybe will deter assault in the future by police and civilians. If we resist this is what happens.
If we punch kids this is what happens.Two way street.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 07:33 PM by intrepid
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Ain't that hard man. Drive a forward knee behind their recesive knee and while off balance BOOM, done. I can also tell you how to get out of a
hammerlock if you want.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 07:37 PM by deltaboy
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Originally posted by intrepid
Ain't that hard man. Drive a forward knee behind their recesive knee and while off balance BOOM, done. I can also tell you how to get out of a
hammerlock if you want. 
 I doubt that would work. As long as she still able to move her arms around.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 07:40 PM by intrepid
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You don't have a lot of practical experience, do you? If you can't stand, ie: leverage, you can't do much.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 07:41 PM by greatlakes
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Seen the video, the officer did everything correctly in my view, the girl was a moron. Up past curfew (debates aside about the curfew), and how do you
not understand the words coming out his mouth, "PUT YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR DUMBASS BACK" said around 40 times.
He did not use unneccessary force, in fact he was trying to use minimal force, until she bit him, then even after that, he showed restraint, then used
the pepper spray, all within standard procedure.
kudos for a job well done for a change by the police. 
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