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Topic started on 4-10-2007 @ 05:05 AM by Black Veil Elder
Vampires

Many topics writen about Vampires,as i have read many discution about the paranormal.
Many with questions but arrousingly lots of replies are in a negative form...

You !Humans! believe what you see and only what you want to believe.Many of you think that Vampires are just a fiction and a joke of a mans mind.
You think that everything about Vampires are not real...NOT TRUE!!!
YOU!ppl see a lot of movies and believe that a Vampire is a blood thirst creature that is flying etc etc...

.::Types of Vampires::.
There are the Sanguinarian Vampires where they feed from types of blood in little ammounts..There are reports that other ppl Drink blood from their tradition or for the need of survival...
Another Type is the Psychic Vampires where they feed from emotions weather conditions and other things..Especially in life force....Reports also where made in this type as they socialise it as magic and telepathic's

.::The Name "Vampire"::.
Vampire is just a mane of some kind of the human form..
We die like you,we feed like you but we are not like you..
We have the control upon some energies of life.You can find this "energie controling"in many forms,like -chi- -magic- and also -faith-.
Most are confused in this matter and in many other things from "Consensus Reality"
All believe lots of things...
Question Exampleo you believe in a GOD?
Do you Believe in Aliens?
Fae?Goblins?Angels?Demons?
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[GOD=ppl believe in a God from the scripts that one man wrote.
The scripts where made by Humans and NOT from a God!!!But many ppl believe in a God cause its the way someone learned this person about faith and the need to someone believe in something..Few have seen miracles..So is there something that rules this place?Or is there a need to believe in a God?
Then Why dont you ppl Believe in something like a Vampire?
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I read a topic of someone called (Nehmahati Kerosna) in the topic
A Vampire related topic ....
I was very angry about the reply this person was given to his/her questions cause you ppl have no respect in someones belief and opinions.
You should be seeking knowledge in all things and not only in yours!!!

And yes Nehmahati there has been a war and still is.Not only you humans have wars...

For more info please contact me in Pm's.
Thank you for your time reading this..Believe in vampires...

Sincerely ~Black Veil Elder~


reply posted on 4-10-2007 @ 08:39 AM by Arawn
Firstly let's start with something light hearted. nyk537, is that man in the background of your avatar, the fat version of Harry Potter? LOL

On we move to the thread title, Vampires! Ohhh, doesn't that make you shudder. Blood sucking creatures lurking in the nights awaiting a tasty neck to bite into. Now, as much as I'd love to believe vampires exist (i.e - what Hollywood portrays) I can find no proof of these creatures. I mean real hard proof. Trust me when I say I'm a 'fan' of vampires. I live the tales and I find it really intriguing, but alas, there's no solid proof these monsters exist.

Let's start with what could have caused the myth, then I'll talk about my findings on cultural myths and stories.

Ok where could the stories have come from. I've researched the stories of Vampires for a number of years believe it or not, in my free time. Sounds weird, but I find folklore fascinating. Straight away I can tell you about porphyria. It's a rare illness but the side effects are very much similar to the stories surrounding vampires.

Some modern scholars have argued that vampire stories may have been influenced by a rare illness called porphyria. The disease is a blood disorder that disrupts the production of haem. Porphyria was thought to be more common than elsewhere in small Transylvanian villages (roughly 1000 years ago) where inbreeding probably occurred. The haem group, found in every blood cell in the human body, is excited by electrons, but in a controlled fashion. However, the haem groups in porphyria sufferers causes uncontrollable tissue, bone and skin damage, made worse when the person comes into contact with sunlight. This would have given the porphyria sufferer a very pallid skin colour, with teeth that appear larger than normal, due to the porphyria damaging the gum tissue and causing it to recede. These people would have been very anemic, and drinking (animal) blood was a traditional treatment for anemia.


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If we look back not so long ago, people were tried for witch craft and general other paranormal activities. So it wouldn't surprise me straight away, if people living in the middle ages who saw a pale, blood drinking human, would think "Ahhh monster!"

Now I'll share with you my research from the 90's. I posted this on numerous paranormal websites 'back in the day.'

The vampire myths go back hundreds, even thousands of years deep within different cultures. In Japan for example they believe in vampire foxes. Also this creature. Our modern concept of the vampire still retains threads, such as blood drinking, return from death, preying on humans at night, etc in common with the Eastern European myths. However many things we are familiar with; the wearing of evening clothes, capes with tall collars, turning into bats, etc are much more recent inventions. It's all been Hollywood 'glammed up' over the years. Americanized, I guess you could call it.

Somebody above mentioned Vlad and Romania is surrounded by Slavic countries, so it isn't surprising that their vampires are variants of the Slavic vampire. They are called Strigoi based on the Roman term strix for screech owl which also came to mean demon or witch. Vlad was a real person yes as mentioned, being on 47 when he passed away. He would inflict horrible tortures on his captives and legend has it that he drank blood. From the captives as a sign of domination and ruthless power? Who knows.

The vampire was usually first noticed when it attacked family and livestock, or threw things around in the house. Vampires, along with witches, were believed to be most active on the Eve of St George's Day (April 22 Julian, May 4 Gregorian calendar), the night when all forms of evil were supposed to be abroad. St Georges Day is still celebrated in Europe by the way.

Back to the Americanized version of Vampires and bats. Where did they come from being linked with Vampires? Many cultures have various myths about bats. In South America, Camazotz was a bat god of the caves living in the Bathouse of the Underworld. In Europe, bats and owls were long associated with the supernatural, mainly because they were night creatures and I believe this is truly where it stems from. It's nighttime, bats fly the night, are stealthily, and are ugly monster type creatures. I'd simply say that that was the case.

I researched over the best part of 3 years during the 90's and have my findings handy if anybody wants to know anymore information about the different types I discovered. My findings were from discussing and talking to people who claimed to be 'the real vampire.' I never met any of them so I can say they didn't attack me, lol.

So to conclude, I think that the monster hunting human prey image that we are shown from the cinema is false. Yet from my findings, the vampire tales and folklore definitely continues with some form of depth.

I love a vampire topic!


reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 05:37 PM by Zyanith
reply to post by Rabid Cerebral



Ahahaha.

"YOU'LL NEVER UNDERSTAND BECAUSE YOU'RE HYOOOOMAN!"

...actually got that line from an ex-boyfriend, who believed that he could turn into a werewolf at will. And that he hunted deer in the woods behind his house at night. And that he'd found a whole bunch of other werewolves and they held pack meetings. Oh, and that he found the Book of the Moon (some kind of werewolf bible from Wolfs Rain) in his attic. I could go on and on about him.

But yeah. Those kinds? Attention seekers.
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