UFO in Israeli air force video?

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posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 05:59 AM
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I looked at the fox version so I could frame by frame the video. The small white dots are most likely small pits or scratches in the canopy. The second large object is not on the canopy. It actually starts out to the left of one of the small marks and then overlaps the same mark a few frames later. I would have to go with the UFO but then I am a UFO believer so my opinion might be biased.




posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 07:02 AM
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Hmm, at alst some interesting footage. Not sure what it is yet, but it does look to be like the plane passes infront of said object with clear implication that it is not a mark on the canopy. But i could be wrong about that.



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 07:45 AM
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Originally posted by timelikebut it does look to be like the plane passes in front of said object with clear implication that it is not a mark on the canopy.


It`s so hard to tell, but it looks like the 'scratch' if that`s what it is passes behind the F16 and then looks as though it lifts slightly and dives. I wish we could see from that angle for just a few seconds more.

[edit on 4-10-2007 by bridas]



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 09:16 AM
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Originally posted by pluckynoonez
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How did they get hubcaps in Israeli air-space?


common photo sent by a us troop. But I guess it must be a piece of an f-16 canopy floating in air.




posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 09:47 AM
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the footage is interesting but there are many reasons to believe that what ever the unknown subjects in this video are not aircrafts.

i have no clear explanation about the first unknown object, my best conclusion is it's a scratch or some sort of other material on the canopy glass or maybe some other type of an aircraft in a considerable amount of distance(but i'm still convinced that it's a scratch or some other material on the canopy). the second unknown subject however is proving to be clearly some thing on the canopy glass.

if u look at the video from where the fighter plane takes the roll on a loop u can clearly identify that the fighter aircraft travels on a smooth line in perspective of the camera eye from the starting frame to the last. the second unknown subject too travel in a smooth line but towards the very end you will notice a sudden vertical shake on this subject that by any means is not a manoeuver could be done by an aircraft built by humans to this date. so clearly then its something wrong with the person who's holding the camera or it's an ufo.

1. camera - if u look more closely you'll also notice that during all this scenario the fighter plane still keeps it's smoother line and keeps going to the distance. because the fighter plane is at a very long distance from the camera we can't catch the camera shake effecting it's smoother line. so what ever this second subject is it should be in between the distance of the camera lens and the fighter plane. the only thing i can think of is the canopy glass. to add to that notice the color contrast between the second unknown subject and all the other objects in the scene (the fighter plane, the ground, the sky color, the clouds) i don't know how you people will notice this but it convince me that the second unknown object is very near to the camera.

2.ufo - if this is a ufo with some relation to israel then the last thing they want is to show it off in front of bbc cameras. if this is a ufo with by all means no relation with israel then i bet that fighter plane would have given the order to bring down this subject a long time before it take that barrel roll.



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 12:53 PM
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It really does appear to track rather well with the camera shake to me, indicating that it is on the canopy glass (thus the total lack of dimension)

I have been in and around more than a few of these type of jets and can tell you their cockpit canopies are far from squeaky clean, lol.



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 12:59 PM
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the second unknown subject however is proving to be clearly some thing on the canopy glass.


I've made a short clip that clearly show that the f-16 moves infront of the object which is behind the f-16. Also if it where on the canopy all scratches must move in unison is that what you see?




[edit on 4-10-2007 by truth2u]



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 01:49 PM
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i totally respect your opinion "truth2u" but this sequence of images is not hard enough for me to say that the f-16 travels in front of the unknown object because of the blurriness of the frame



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 02:13 PM
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the canopy scratches should move in unison with the camera movement. true, but here it's not the case, u don't see scratches on a glass all the time, when the light hits the scratches and in certain angles only we see them. for an example take a piece of glass, rub it on the floor and have a look at it in different angles. you don't see all the scratches every time. for some scratches to pop up we have to look at them in a certain angle in respect with the light source. in this case they appear so bright because of the bright sun light.

and there could be another possibility of having the reflection of the inside of the cockpit on the canopy glass. since the camera angle is changing with every frame we could be looking at different reflections. in those reflections we could have the reflections of some objects and in another frame of some other objects. it's a very basic scenario.



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 02:16 PM
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Dudes...lol. Look at the horizon movement compared to the "ufo's" movement. Case closed. Nothing but overwhelming paranoia and the desire to believe so bad common sense is negated.

You video merely exposes the limits of the DV camera that the pilot was using. You do own a DV camera and use it enough to pass judgment of this type of stuff, right? I would figure that would be necessary before you try to "analyze" this video.



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 02:53 PM
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I must agree. Sadly I no longer belive it to be a real object in behind the plane! Still I had to examine it for a while before I could reach this conclusion- most the bleedin afternoon in between what I was supposed ot be doing!

Whatever ones oppinion, it is a welcome break from all this wretched reptile shapeshifter nonsense, oh that does go on!!!

Interesting find bridas, thanks for starting an interesting thread!


[edit on 4-10-2007 by timelike]



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 11:41 PM
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They look like flying wings, or b2





posted on Oct, 5 2007 @ 02:59 AM
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i totally agree with "IgnoreTheFacts". there's nothing to prove in this video. it's just common sense that this is just an illusion of a camera view, although i had to go explain things that i don't even bother to because some people still believe there's something out there beyond our explanation! now thats an interesting case; to work on such people who say those things. :-) lol

still if i may resume my explanation about this video, i'm asking all the people who believe that there's a ufo in this video, tell me... how do you explain the sudden vertical maneuver that this thing does? if it's caused by a shake in the camera then why the f-16 don't appear to be shaking too? and if this thing is beyond the distance of the f-16, this damn flying thing is pretty damn BIG! and how in the world can humans fly it? if it's not humans what are they doing flying beside two fighter planes? are they friends with israel??? (i wonder what's the language they are using! ;-)) and do you guys really think that bbc broadcast there videos without having a second look at them?

case closed!



posted on Oct, 5 2007 @ 07:57 PM
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UFO in Israeli air force video?

Kinda wondering if Israel allowed this vid out to send a message? I mean, it's kinda putting an officially sanctioned, Israeli Airforce camera-captured UFO out for the world to see. If that could possibly be the case -- why? To who? Of course what I suggested could be pure bologna too


Dallas



posted on Oct, 5 2007 @ 09:55 PM
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Must be my new glasses, i have sat here and watched over and over and over ive shown family members and we all seem to agree it appears the object is behind the tornado, you can still see the wings as it travels upwards?


but my opinion im not going for a scratch they dont show up on my camcorder too out of focus and my lens is full of scratches..



posted on Oct, 5 2007 @ 10:05 PM
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has anyone said they look like clouds? because thats what they look like to me. just some random low clouds without light shinning on them. i stopped it in the bbc video and the werent totally solid. im sure this will be ignored.



posted on Oct, 5 2007 @ 10:29 PM
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There is in fact only ONE frame where the aircraft and object overlap.

Having examined that particular frame with a variety of photoshop image adjustments, the results remain indeterminate, due to the compromised quality of the compressed video source.

Without access to the high-quality, original, uncompressed source video, it's impossible to determine which part of the image eclipses the other, unfortunately.

The supporting evidence, mentioned previously in this thread, continues to lead one to believe the unidentified objects are, in fact, blemishes on the canopy, and nothing more.



posted on Oct, 6 2007 @ 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by bridas
Take a look 30 seconds into this video from the BBC and see what flies behind an Israeli F16 fighter jet. I hope it`s not a hoax. Could this be another aircraft? I can`t see a tail on the other object.


Bridas.


BBC News Video

[edit on 3-10-2007 by bridas]


Hi there bridas,

This is my first post on this site. First impression (of the site) is that it's huge and there's lots to learn. Now to your fighter video: I like to say what I see, without too much analysis. And it looks like a metallic disc comes into view twice, the second time passing in between the two aircraft. It momentarily glints in the sunlight.

So I'd say it is a UFO, either alien or U.S. controlled. If it were an Israeli drone(?) they would have it evade their own fighters.

Great footage, by the way. My family was impressed!

smilodon



posted on Oct, 14 2007 @ 04:07 PM
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If you watch the footage, keeping your eye on the UFO (the second larger one), you'll see that although the camera appears to continue to smoothly track downward and to the left, the UFO actually does a small barely perceptible hop downward (it dips downward a small degree).

Play the footage over and over and you'll see what I mean when u carefully watch the UFO it appears to hop almost imperceptably downward - most miss it because of the quick cut to the next frame of footage - but it is there.

Regarding an alternative millitary support aircraft theory - in stills there appear to be no wings on the craft whatsoever. It is silver, metallic and disc shaped.

Now - could it be a hoax? difficult to do with the pitted cockpit window glares, but not proof positive it wasn't.

What is odd is that the footage of the fighters could be from any date - in many cases, reporters and their editors will work to get footage from archives to help fill in story pieces. Unless the footage is supplied from the millitary itself.

How could this happen? Well isn't it interesting that the story is about a secret millitary mission that was a raid on Syria.

Makes me imagine someone going into a footage vault, looking for aircraft footage marked "Top Secret" and assuming this was the footage for the Syrian raid, but oops... it's different "Top Secret" aircraft footage.

It could be real and it could have been a mistaken leak. Or, it could be someone's idea of a joke. Odd tho that the BBC didn't notice it in the footage.

- 'guts



posted on Oct, 14 2007 @ 05:53 PM
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Anyone able to post some pics for me? I've taken the time to grab a couple of stills which to me show positively the jet fighter passes in front of (and not behind) the UFO.





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