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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:12 PM by traderonwallst
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You are sick, pathetic and disgusting. Please never step foot in the USA. Too many soldiers have died to gaurantee the freedom of idiots the right
to say such things. I say thank a vet, shut up and get on your way.
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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:15 PM by Dr Love
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Thanks for your input Ms. Coulter!
To the posters using their brains, let's not turn this into a labeling flamefest, that would only play into 'their' hands.
Edit: Mrs. to Ms., I know that chude (chick/dude) ain't married.
Peace
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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:15 PM by Malichai
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Originally posted by zoso28
you only need to know that soldiers fought and died so that you can express the opinion that you just did. as a veteran i will only say "your
welcome". feel free to express yourself any way you like
Are the Soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting for my freedoms here at home in America? If they were not there would I lose my freedoms? If so,
how?
Would the Iraqis dip the oars in the water and row the Islamic Aircraft carrier all the way to America?
Would they hoist sail on the Islamic Battleships?
Unlike the Islamic Submarine force, the Islamic Airforce Pilots don't have to hold their breath all the time to fly the Islamic Stealth Bombers. But
if they stop flapping, even for a minute, they will go spinning wildly out of control, crash and burn.
Then, of course, you have the Islamic ICBM, but everyone knows you can't peddle an Intercontinental Bicycular Missile across oceans.
So please, explain how my freedoms are being protected by these occupations? All I see is greater threats from enraging the populations.
We were a whole lot safer, richer, and more loved around the world before the Wars of Aggression launched from behind thinly veiled propaganda.
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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:19 PM by Knightshadowz
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Originally posted by piacenza
I will probably be flamed for this topic, but I need to ask anyway: why in hell do we have to respect, cheer, and cry for the lowest level of human
beings on earth? You cry for nothing more and nothing less than a simple baby killer or a rapist. During history before the Media propaganda soldiers
were basically recruited with force and where considered the lowest level of human beings. Nowadays they volunteer to defend imaginary borders that
some stupid people created without real reason except to divide…
When a human being accepts blindly orders from someone that is exactly the same as he is, I can safely say he is simply stupid, why should I feel pity
for him?
EXCELLENT POST!
I dared not go here myself, but I am glad to know someone out there sees the military for what it is; an excuse to steal, maim, and kill in the name
of freedom, freedom being money. To kill solves nothing, nor does claiming to defend something when you are most obviously an aggressor in another
mans country telling him how to live.
Compare us to England before we told them to # off.
Originally posted by traderonwallst
reply to post by piacenza
You are sick, pathetic and disgusting. Please never step foot in the USA. Too many soldiers have died to gaurantee the freedom of idiots the right
to say such things. I say thank a vet, shut up and get on your way.
And excuse me, I didn't know the vietnamese, koreans, or the iraqies WE armed and trained invaded the continental US and put our women and children
in direct danger.. Oh wait, that has never been the case, except when it comes to how we deal with people that don't live here.
Being a vet doesnt give you any special say over the average american, in fact, the average american was the one you supposedly fought for. And while
I really, REALLY, hate to say it, just because YOU opted to fight against someone doesnt mean I have to respect you for it in the least. It simply
goes to show that you don't know ANY better than to kill someone you don't understand when they are most likely fighting for that same reasons you
were told YOU were fighting for; Freedom.
-Knight
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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:21 PM by Vanguard223
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Originally posted by Dr Love
reply to post by Vanguard223
Thanks for your input Mrs. Coulter!
To the posters using their brains, let's not turn this into a labeling flamefest, that would only play into 'their' hands.
Peace
Say what you will and ignore the facts but it's only leftists ever posting crap like this. Have you ever seen anyone on the right flaming or
disrespecting the military? I didn't label him, he labled himself.
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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:24 PM by Vanguard223
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Oh..and this thread was turned into a "flame fest" from the very first post. Insulting the very military that makes his free speech possible is not
only hypocritical, it's deplorable.
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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:25 PM by scientist
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Originally posted by jedimiller
We used to need the military to protect us. now, the military is pretty much useless. we don't need one anymore. when will Americans realize this? We
have to bring those troops home and do the following.
1. put them to work in factories. to work. actual work, maybe open up 30 FORD manufacturing plants and put the soldiers to work. make good use of
them.
2. Dissolve the military. Stop all Iraq involvement.
3. Arm the people. If there ever is a war, then we would all arm ourselves and go fight.
Done.
good lord, im speechless. this entire thread just SCREAMS troll-bait. I will refrain from saying anything else, other than the US military is not
evil, and deserves respect.
Just like, all Americans aren't evil, therefore to just disrespect all Americans because of one that you don't like, well that's pretty much the
same type of ignorance that racism is based on.
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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:25 PM by intrepid
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OK folks, let's post with decorum please.
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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:27 PM by Malichai
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How do you know that this person is a Leftist? I read through the whole thread and didn't see any admissions, but there are plenty of accusations.
Instead of making the discussion of your own thoughts about the people here why not make it about the issues? Ad hominem adds nothing to the
discussion.
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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:30 PM by Knightshadowz
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Originally posted by Vanguard223
Originally posted by Dr Love
reply to post by Vanguard223
Thanks for your input Mrs. Coulter!
To the posters using their brains, let's not turn this into a labeling flamefest, that would only play into 'their' hands.
Peace
Say what you will and ignore the facts but it's only leftists ever posting crap like this. Have you ever seen anyone on the right flaming or
disrespecting the military? I didn't label him, he labled himself.
Left. Right. Middle. Middle left. Middle Right. Down. Up.
Who cares what you THINK a persons political stance is!? This is a forum, and you really shouldnt make claims about which direction a person comes
from. It really makes no sense in the least other than simply stating that you don't believe what that person believes. And most people on the
"Right" are war-mongers and money-grubbers, if you'd like to go there.
Cheers!
-Knight
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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:32 PM by sputniksteve
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Originally posted by piacenza
I will probably be flamed for this topic, but I need to ask anyway: why in hell do we have to respect, cheer, and cry for the lowest level of human
beings on earth? You cry for nothing more and nothing less than a simple baby killer or a rapist. During history before the Media propaganda soldiers
were basically recruited with force and where considered the lowest level of human beings. Nowadays they volunteer to defend imaginary borders that
some stupid people created without real reason except to divide…
When a human being accepts blindly orders from someone that is exactly the same as he is, I can safely say he is simply stupid, why should I feel pity
for him?
You did more damage to yourself in that statement then you could ever do to the troops. I hope you feel like a retard because you sure look like one.
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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:33 PM by Dr Love
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Originally posted by jsobecky
Originally posted by Dr Love
reply to post by The Bruce
Question, do you think your government cares about you? Do you care?
Peace
Probably about as much as your employer cares about you.
You know, that's a good point but it has one tragic flaw, my employer doesn't send me out to shoot at or get shot at, and ill-equipped nonetheless.
And that's not even taking into consideration whether the war is justified or not.
Peace
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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:34 PM by The Bruce
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One thing I would like to add. I will never expect the populace to accept or understand the military presence in any foriegn country, but before you
pass judgement on any soldier please take a look closer to home. We do serve here as well, you may know us as National Guard. We serve in relief
efforts after natural disasters. We are citizen soldiers who are willing to be called in the middle of our lives with our loved ones to aid others in
time of need. We also make up a huge percentage of deployed soldiers, mostly not by choice, but we are there. Say what you like about us, but know
that if you and your state need us, we'll be there.
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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:35 PM by jsobecky
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Why are so many people bringing up Iraq and Afghanistan?
The question you should be asking yourself is, would you still feel the same way about the military if we were not in Iraq or Afghanistan?
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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:36 PM by traderonwallst
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OK I got warned for my comments and lost 500 points for what I said. In the OP's origial post does he/she not refer to soldiers as rapists and baby
killers? Was there a warning there?
I understand that most people on ATS seem to be against the US, especially the military portion, but please. Calling our servicemen rapist and baby
killers....thats just not right.
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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:39 PM by SimplyMaryJane
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Originally posted by jsobecky
Why are so many people bringing up Iraq and Afghanistan?
The question you should be asking yourself is, would you still feel the same way about the military if we were not in Iraq or Afghanistan?
Thats a very good point.
and someone else pointed out Katrina help and many other things.
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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:40 PM by Kacen
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Thank you for calling my two deceased Uncles and deceased Grandpa who I never met before since he died before I was born "low human beings".
I much appreciate it.
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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:40 PM by jsobecky
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reply to post by Dr Love
Originally posted by Dr Love
You know, that's a good point but it has one tragic flaw, my employer doesn't send me out to shoot at or get shot at, and ill-equipped nonetheless.
And that's not even taking into consideration whether the war is justified or not.
Peace
Not unless you are employed by Blackwater or Wackenhut. Regardless, when you enlist you understand the possibility of going to war. You don't get to
ask if it dovetails with your personal political ideology.
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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:41 PM by Vanguard223
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Oh, it's ok for the OP to post that the military is a bunch of baby killers but not ok for me to post that I think he's a leftist with a military
hating agenda?
Hypocrite much? This is typical of some of you people. There is a post insulting an entire group of people and you say nothing about it.....probably
because you agree with it. Someone posts a reply stating the motivations of the OP and throwing an insult back his way and you all get up in arms
over it. Why don't you complain about the original posts insults to honorable people and not my insult to the lowest form of human life...the
hypocrite?
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reply posted on 3-10-2007 @ 12:42 PM by Dr Love
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Yeah, and just for the record I don't condone the "rapist and babykiller" accusations. That being said, long drawn out wars have a devastating
effect on the human psyche. Little Johnny might not have been one when he left, but he sure as hell could become one somewhere along the way. That's
the governments fault, not the fault of people who don't respect or support the soldiers.
Peace
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