How do you get hero worship out of respecting a fellow human being?
I don't bow before anyone.. soldier, president, mods of this board.. but I will respect them.. just like I do the frontdoor greeter at my local
wal-mart.
The human element will always be needed. You would really want the "powers that be" defending us just with fingers on tactical nukes? Not that that
isnt the case already, but it is some comfort to know that there is a human element of normal men and women out there that actually have to do the
grunt work. No human element means no emotion or conscience.
If we could get away from war.. this would all be moot point. Alas, our species has not come that far yet.
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reply posted on 2-10-2007 @ 10:18 PM by uberarcanist
reply to post by TwiTcHomatic
Thank you for that response. It is a lot more reasonable that some of the others I have seen here.
OK, about the nukes, it's not like the president simply pushes a button and off they go. The order to launch goes down the chain of command just like any other order. The launch operators have the option (although it will result in a court martial) of refusing an order to launch.
Thank you for that response. It is a lot more reasonable that some of the others I have seen here.
OK, about the nukes, it's not like the president simply pushes a button and off they go. The order to launch goes down the chain of command just like any other order. The launch operators have the option (although it will result in a court martial) of refusing an order to launch.
reply posted on 2-10-2007 @ 10:18 PM by NGC2736
reply to post by uberarcanist
Let me give you amore reasoned response. It is easier to be a lunitic when there is some one else that pays for the straight jacket.
Don't get it?
I never wanted war, but I fought.
I never thought it was right, but I went.
I never wanted to kill, but I did.
When you're old enough to understand how this could all be true, then you'll be old enough to honor the soldier and still protest the war.
Let me give you amore reasoned response. It is easier to be a lunitic when there is some one else that pays for the straight jacket.
Don't get it?
I never wanted war, but I fought.
I never thought it was right, but I went.
I never wanted to kill, but I did.
When you're old enough to understand how this could all be true, then you'll be old enough to honor the soldier and still protest the war.
reply posted on 2-10-2007 @ 10:25 PM by uberarcanist
reply to post by NGC2736
If someone disagrees with a war, don't they have the right, maybe even the obligation to stand against it and refuse to serve? Sure, they could be jailed, but is not civil disobedience among the highest of duties?
If someone disagrees with a war, don't they have the right, maybe even the obligation to stand against it and refuse to serve? Sure, they could be jailed, but is not civil disobedience among the highest of duties?
reply posted on 2-10-2007 @ 10:34 PM by uberarcanist
reply to post by Xtrozero
I'm not sure if I entirely agree with you, but, damn, that was a goood post.
I'm not sure if I entirely agree with you, but, damn, that was a goood post.
reply posted on 2-10-2007 @ 11:07 PM by NGC2736
reply to post by uberarcanist
You confuse honor with desire. I have been married for many years. I have seen many ladies that were desirable. But I'm still married to the same lady, because I knew what honor was.
You confuse honor with desire. I have been married for many years. I have seen many ladies that were desirable. But I'm still married to the same lady, because I knew what honor was.
reply posted on 2-10-2007 @ 11:14 PM by NGC2736
reply to post by Xtrozero
I salute you sir.
We ned mre people that work to make life better, no matter what country that life is in.
I salute you sir.
We ned mre people that work to make life better, no matter what country that life is in.
reply posted on 2-10-2007 @ 11:27 PM by ADVISOR
reply to post by piacenza
Piacenza
I could say the same about you, and express the same loathing and disgust about those who won't wear the uniform of those who established this nation. Because with out a military there would be no
US of A, not even the chance of such a country as ours. I highly advise that you re-educate yourself as well as find a way to think for yourself that to parot anti liberty retoric.
Because with out American warriors, there would be no such thing, as liberty.
United We Stand, The Rest, Is Not An Option!
Piacenza
I could say the same about you, and express the same loathing and disgust about those who won't wear the uniform of those who established this nation. Because with out a military there would be no
US of A, not even the chance of such a country as ours. I highly advise that you re-educate yourself as well as find a way to think for yourself that to parot anti liberty retoric.
Because with out American warriors, there would be no such thing, as liberty.
United We Stand, The Rest, Is Not An Option!
reply posted on 2-10-2007 @ 11:29 PM by 1337cshacker
reply to post by piacenza
You need to feel pity because they DO NOT KNOW all the things we know. SIMPLE AS THAT. We should still respect them because without them, we would be very easily overrun. Yes the war is UNJUSTIFIED, even still, it is NOT the troops faults. They think it is justified, they think 9/11 was osama, so you get my drift in how its not their fault? Blindly following orders is a job requirement, its for the good of everyone not to second guess orders. Not all times have been like this time!!! Not all wars were unjust like this one. Like WW2, WW1, any other war really. Do you not respect any man who died on the beaches, or anyone british in tunisia 1942? If not, you FAIL as a human being, I have pity for YOU. Now this is all just fact so suck it up.
I am joining army because it is my last resort as a job and I will not be in combat, I will be military police, bustin 45 and arresting criminals, not mistaken innocents or terrorist. So respect me as well, because I'll be keeping unauthorized off bases, or where ever else they need me other than combat. I will be greatly honored to serve this country to the best of my ability. I will do so with utter respect and will keep my mouth SHUT of all conspiracy, as true as they are. I will serve uncle sam not for just his cause, not for his secret cause, but for MY cause, for MY life, and for the things I was GIVEN as a privilege. As bad as this country has become over the last 20 years, I owe my part. Simple as that.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE!
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You need to feel pity because they DO NOT KNOW all the things we know. SIMPLE AS THAT. We should still respect them because without them, we would be very easily overrun. Yes the war is UNJUSTIFIED, even still, it is NOT the troops faults. They think it is justified, they think 9/11 was osama, so you get my drift in how its not their fault? Blindly following orders is a job requirement, its for the good of everyone not to second guess orders. Not all times have been like this time!!! Not all wars were unjust like this one. Like WW2, WW1, any other war really. Do you not respect any man who died on the beaches, or anyone british in tunisia 1942? If not, you FAIL as a human being, I have pity for YOU. Now this is all just fact so suck it up.
I am joining army because it is my last resort as a job and I will not be in combat, I will be military police, bustin 45 and arresting criminals, not mistaken innocents or terrorist. So respect me as well, because I'll be keeping unauthorized off bases, or where ever else they need me other than combat. I will be greatly honored to serve this country to the best of my ability. I will do so with utter respect and will keep my mouth SHUT of all conspiracy, as true as they are. I will serve uncle sam not for just his cause, not for his secret cause, but for MY cause, for MY life, and for the things I was GIVEN as a privilege. As bad as this country has become over the last 20 years, I owe my part. Simple as that.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE!
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