I have been to Mainland China. They have seen the TV adds for Mercedes Benz streaming over the borders and they want it!

The history of warfare in China does not include jumping distances to take over remote locations. It involves expanding into neighboring countries. Which happens to be what they are doing now. They see it as taking back their historical property. I would be alarmed if they ever began to do othewise. I am not alarmed yet.

They are not bad people. They are strict. They are harsh in some ways. And they are definately indoctrinated strongly in their concept of what is theirs. If someone did this indoctrination intentionally, it was done well and universally. It is now self sustaining, and I doubt that anyone controls it any longer.

Please allow me to remind you that we too have been known to behave badly (In the sense that bad things have been happening under the American flag for about 50 year.)

Today, to my eyes our government is behaving more like the U.S.S.R before the wall came down, than it is like the U.S.A before the end of WWII.

In truth, I see the two nations as not being so different. Not since America has been sold out. I believe the great American experiment ended some time ago. The new management simply did not see a need to change the signs, since they came with the property.

I could live equally in either country and feel sad at what I see going on around me. That is how close both nations have come to each other.

The primary difference in China is that most people do not feel sad about it. As I said they are in agreement on what is proper behavior. In this way they are different from us. We no longer see ourselves as rightious if the truth be told.

I consider myself Patriotic. I have 7 years in the military.
A patriot speaks out when someone soils his flag, I am not talking about getting dirt on cloth. I am talking about spilling blood for unrightious ends.

Originally posted by Shazam The Unbowed
If china is going to attack anyone, its russia. You always attack your neighbors when you want resources. Probably with a lot of muslim help sponspoered by Iran. Chechnyan muslims and what not.

Do you subscribe to the Neocon Newsletter? You are echoing their talking points.....

Sure seems it from this post you just made.....why would they attack Russia when their stated goals is retaking Taiwan?

Please start spreading Logic instead of warmongering neocon propoganda......

Originally posted by CyberbianPlease allow me to remind you that we too have been known to behave badly (In the sense that bad things have been happening under the American flag for about 50 year.)

Today, to my eyes our government is behaving more like the U.S.S.R before the wall came down, than it is like the U.S.A before the end of WWII.

I agree with you 1000%

I am born in America and love my country but fear the current government.

The people running the USA have ACTUALLY allowed Yevgeni Primakov to consult Homeland (Reich) Security on terrorism....

He predicted Homeland Security would hire Markus Wolf. And guess what....THEY DID!!!!! To write PATRIOT ACT II.....THIS GUY IS THE STASI.....DO YOU GET IT FELLOW AMERICANS???? LOOK AT THIS INFO AND BE ALARMED!!!!!

Political analyst Al Martin, who has in the past proven accurate in getting ahead of the news curve, is reporting that Homeland Security have hired former Stasi head, the 'Silver Fox' Markus Wolf.

Martin states,

"Wolf is the man that effectively built the East German state intelligence operation’s internal directorate," Martin continues. "He turned half the population into informants. That is his specialty, is taking a population, constructing the various state divisions, mechanisms of control, in order to organize informants within the population. That is his real specialty. And that is precisely, as Primakov has intimated, why Wolf is being brought in. The regime knows that once all of Patriot II is in law and they begin working on Patriot III, they will then begin to establish the internal mechanism to coordinate, as an official function of state, a system of informants. Wolf’s speciality was to turn East Germany into the greatest and most efficient informant state ever created."

On a radio appearance earlier today Martin stated that the admission that Wolf would be hired was made in a BBC radio interview given by the former head of the KGB, General Yevgeni Primakov.

Martin had previously reported that Primakov had been hired as a consultant by the US Department of Homeland Security to implement CAPPS II and the national iD card system which he dubbed an 'internal passport'

Ask yourself are we the Land of the Free, home of the Brave.....Or Land of collectivism, home of the slave?

Judging from who Homeland security is hiring, I would say the latter....stop waving that flag....start learning so we can save this country before it's too late....

THE FOUNDING FATHERS WOULD PUKE IF THEY KNEW THAT THE HIGHER UPS IN THE STASI WERE WRITING LEGISLATION IN THIS COUNTRY.....

DONT BE TRAITORS TO AMERICA.....LEARN THE TRUTH

For every American in a place of power I have given you all you need on this post to learn the truth....If you don't look into it.....you deserve to hang like the Benedict Arnold's you are.....If you are in power, you took an oath to uphold the constitution.....if you refuse to uphold it, you deserve to be hung from the lamposts like the traitors you are....I have done my job as watchman if you read this....it's time to do your job or pay the price for refusing to honor your oath to uphold the constitution......




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Originally posted by bk777

Ad hominem, attack, insult.

Nice try.
China and Russia have been adversaries for centuries. Much of russias border with China is contested by both countries, CHina has a massive population and almost no energy supllies while many areas of russia have massive energy deposits and no population. Taiwan, while politically symbolic, has no energy, mineral, or other reserves beyond what its (free market) economy has produced.
In addition, china has been working extremly closely with iran, who could easily inflame muslim opinion in Chechnya and other "russian" muslim states.