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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 11:18 AM by Sniffer
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 11:19 AM by saint4God
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I'm glad Gideon has the compassion and interest for Sniffer. I believe it's that kind of feeling that can carry a person far in life with great
rewards. I hadn't considered most on ATS would "off themselves" without them bringing it up, but have spoken to a few people in unstable
situations. When I was considering it myself a decade and a half ago, I didn't tell anyone. I think you're right Gideon, guns are no joke. I
don't own one because it is a non-selective weapon that requires no training to operate. That spells danger for me. I have my weapons from kung-fu
(most practice, only a few combat) and would not hesitate to thump an intruder with one of them. Even if I'm in err, my weapon of choice would not
be fatal on a single strike. I know it's a little off topic, but when you're struck with fear by spirit or anything else, having a gun in hand can
be a big mistake.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 11:21 AM by GideonHM
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Your respect is appreciated, and I will explain my mentality for you. How do we know that it isn't biding its time? Many people and entities will
take their sweet time in deciding a future action, especially if the potential target is aware of their presence or their activities. Really, most
people will go their entire lives ignoring potential spirits and entities, and I would say it is a fair presumption to believe that they know this and
react from a position of security and act like they have all the time in the world.
It has been said that spirits can feel and feed off of fear, and if that is true, then if I were in this potential spirit's position, I would milk
this situation for all it's worth. Free food and entertainment is always a powerful motivator, and leads to procrastination in regards to fulfilling
an ultimate goal (which none of us can determine with confidence, if it is even really a spirit). Or, if non-earth based entities are involved and
they are hostile without minding a few pictures, then they may very well bristle at the chance to scare the piss out of him, even if he does take
pictures. After all, it's not like we can directly interfere, and few humans have the experience and capacity to deal with them properly. I mean the
ghostbusters and XCOM just aren't around to help out, and even if they were, Sniffer's poor house would be the victim who suffers the worst.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 11:22 AM by jess1985
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Thats Crazy. I believe it because when I take photos with my camera phone has the same quality.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 11:32 AM by ejsaunders
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Guys the OP NEVER SAID HE HAD A GUN that was a couple of other posters who were discussing that if something similar happened, they were armed and
ready for it.
I agree, that if this is some sort of etheral presence it is likely feeding off his fears so materialisng in such ways would be an ideal way of
getting a suitable quotent of energy. He would also be depressed that no-one believes him, thereby allowing it more entry into his physical/astral
being and thereby allow it to possess him.
We have all be hoaxed on this board I'm sure, but we've become so conditioned to think everything is a hoax and not think of the well-being of the
person that its not funny anymore. Are we that proud we can't laugh off someone trying to hoax us? A lot of people here in this very thread seem
almost angry at the OP for posting anything and regardless will undoutedly not believe him whatever he says or does.
I'd rather feel a fool than have someone hurt mentally of physically over something that they cannot control that perhaps I could have made a
difference to if only I'd listened.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 11:43 AM by Sniffer
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Originally posted by ejsaunders
He would also be depressed that no-one believes him, thereby allowing it more entry into his physical/astral being and thereby allow it to possess
him.
Im not depressed. nor am i depressed that no-one believes me. im perfectly fine with non-believers, its believers that will help me figure out what
this is.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 11:48 AM by GideonHM
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Bingo! That is my whole reasoning behind this. Now you mention it, the gun thing was from others, and the moderator did weigh in to stop that, and
voila I was distracted by it (really someone else posting about what they posted). My perception is that even if I am made a fool, at least I can live
with that. Risking someone getting possessed or harmed because I refuse to listen is pathetic.
Even if they are just imagined, the emotions are very real, and they can destroy even the strongest individual or group, if the belief is real. This
is a side note, but I threaten spirits with eating them, and well, they run faster than their energies can carry them. However threats are dangerous
if they can't be backed up, but what is more important is if communication occurs, then being strong, determined, and oh so sly will produce a far
more positive situation.
It isn't easy, and can make you more enemies, but if something gets pissed because you are pissed because it doesn't respect your right to live in
peace without fear then F them. Remember, bullies are the first to complain about being bullied, and your right to exist supercedes their desires to
torment you, and if you can put the fear of death into them then do so.
I know it is weird Sniffer, but the next time you feel something in your room, tell them Gideon said hello. Just trust me.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 05:23 PM by fURIX
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From what I can see with the face-pictures it simply looks "too good to be true".... sadly. Doesnt mean thats right, though. I wont judge you nor
make any assumptions of wether what we see is something paranormal or whatever.
However, this looks way more like a "ghostly" or astral phenomena then an alien. Trough my own OBE exp, I've been encountering beings that had
strikingly simular faces of what you have shown pictures of. Not often though.... I really do believe NEGS exist, but I've had few problems with
them.... They scare you, and feed of the fear(negative) energy that u release. Quite simply. You are of no interest to them if you are not afraid of
them. Or by showing how overpowered you are compared to how low they are you make them remove their own behinds. They truely hate that.
Shadow People or whatever we may call it, it actually looked like them. They often take a shape simular to the Grey aliens. And they can take
different shapes it seems. Maybe they can shapeshift to whatever shape would scare that individual the most, or the general person.
Actually I shouldnt even make a judgement of the being(s) in question on the pics  ...but sure looks like negs.
What REALLY cought MY interest was not the clear "looks like fake" images of faces but the
img522.imageshack.us...
...looks like somthing manifesting itself in this realm... could ofc be a trick of lighting or poor quiality camera (wich it is)
From bellow second shelf to the right... looks like a tortured face. I have never seen with my own physical eyes seen a neg or anything from the
astral realm manifesting itself on cam or infront of me in "real life" But I wont say it cant happen...
Now back to reality... I wont elaborate more since I simple cant stop myself if I continue  From what I can see the misty faces migth be a trick
of lighting like I said before... and the clear faces could just have been masks you put there.... I wont take any conclusion. But if u really are
sincere I hope u stay in fear and continue to take pics from ur room...
Moving pics if u can... If it was all a joke then LOL u got way too much response... But u didnt fool anyone(I hope) the crittisims u recieve is
just a healthy response to something that seems very faked, coz it does NOT go beyond the realm of conventional explanation...
I dont judge you.. but please continue your work. You cant be hurt. Trust me.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 05:27 PM by Ben236
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Is that another mask I see on the left of the 2nd shelf from the top?
Is there any chance of getting those daylight pics too? In all honesty I don't think they'll help because it's easy enough to move things around
before talking the pics. I don't think asking to take photos immediately on command changes anything either, it would seriously take me 20 seconds
to go to my costume drawer, pull out a mask and place it on my desk.
I don't really have a costume drawer.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 05:29 PM by Disgustipated
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If it is your room, why is there a picture of tiger from winnie the poo on your wall?
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 08:33 PM by Sniffer
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 09:11 PM by HaTaX
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Awww, didn't want to leave the tiger banner wallpaper around the room visible?
I buy that explanation because I see it continuing in this picture as well:
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 09:28 PM by section8citizen
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What does Tiger have to do with anything? I collect Snoopy and other Peanut characters... everything from stuffed animals to small metal figurines
from Hallmark. I even still have an unopened box of Snoopy Candy Canes and I am 35. People collect some strange things sometimes, it doesn't mean
anything.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 10:53 PM by GideonHM
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I agree, Tigger means nothing. But, please let us know once you get your friend's camera, and how long it will take you to get us those control
pictures (the default pictures) of your room in full light, and dim light, so we can give you educated guesses as to the nature of what you are
photographing and just the layout of your room in general. Those cell phone pictures just won't cut it any more, unless something even bigger and
brighter shows up. I want to give you the benefit of the doubt, so just let us know when you get it. PLEASE.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 11:02 PM by GideonHM
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Wait! You said this was a kid's room? Is this kid still alive, related to you, is this all of the previous furniture? This could be a key to
unlocking the secret of your bedroom. Find out as much as you can about the previous owners, their habits, if there were any deaths on the premises,
or even on the property. Last thing you need is to have someone buried under your floorboards (doubtful, but if you don't know anything of the
previous residents then a spiritual cleansing may be needed desperately). The more info you have, the better off you will be, and sometimes really bad
things can happen years prior, and the current residents have to deal with the aftermath. Check this out, and depending on what you find, you could
acquire a critical answer to flesh out this mystery.
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reply posted on 5-10-2007 @ 11:28 PM by Sniffer
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ill get the daylight photos underway,
also we took off a strip of that "winnie the pooh" wallpaper, it took the paint off the wall so thats why we have left it.
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reply posted on 6-10-2007 @ 12:53 PM by Mikee
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If I see this in my room I would have to wash my floor after.
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reply posted on 6-10-2007 @ 08:54 PM by Gorman91
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Just wanna point this out:
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reply posted on 6-10-2007 @ 09:29 PM by alaskan
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I think the winnie the pooh border around his room says more about this thread than the subject of the pictures does...
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reply posted on 6-10-2007 @ 09:33 PM by OzWeatherman
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Hey thats well spotted, maybe sniffer actually DOES have something. Still need that video camera there though
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