Alien Creatures In Space!

Jellyfish UFO:

www.ufoevidence.org...

Is possibly caused by the surface of the object being cooler than -180 C

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Like what? Having a beer with an alien in your front lawn with that dork's flying saucer hovering a few feet away? Even then you'd say that it was all hallucination and a drug induced episode. Mind games being played by the CIA, NSA, HLS and what have you!

You can't win, can you?

Cheers!

from the human logic stand point its thoretically impossible for an organism to live in the vacume of space because of the drastic temprature changes and non exsistant food sources.

whats a space creature gonna eat? dark matter? comon people...

Yes I would believe in a heartbeat when that happens. If I can see, touch or hear then it's legit. I think you got confused me with John Lear.

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dang why everybody gotta beat up on ole john lear
i like him. hes cool

O.K. "genius," you said that life could not exist in space. I provided you with cold, hard facts about how it could exist. I said nothing about giant space worms. So, before you go on a moron tangent, remember that you're dumb.

We eat to produce energy, and energy is what we need.

So, if some organism could find a way of using the energy available in space maybe it could live on it.

But, once more, what I find more difficult is moving, there is only one way of moving in vacuum or near vacuum, and that is send some matter in the opposite direction to which we want to move. Loosing matter is not an efficient method of moving, especially if we can not eat.

There are way too many things lacking in open space for it to be a life-friendly place.
What we have here, in Earth's most harsh and extreme environments is considered 5 stars luxury in the Eternal Vacuum.

Alien creatures and living organism spaceships.

I think some of alien creatures are living organism spaceships. Think, you have spaceship what not lose any gas or something and it have infinity energy. Think how strong weapons these could have too. And most interesting thing could be living organism spaceship have is automatic repairing system, at if someone shoots spaceship and spaceship get hole, it fixing automatically spaceship and fix the hole and do same type that spaceship wall like it was before. We could say these undestructible spaceships. Very interesting thing is too these spaceships is at you can modifying easily these spaceship gens and dna or insert easily some gun through spaceship wall or something. Very many things have these living organism spaceships.

One interesting thing have these do at you can cut food from wall. Hahaha.

www.sciencedaily.com...

Heres your proof that life CAN EXIST IN A VACUMM and more importantly in space

Actually this is not a proof.
This is just an article about experiments and tests that will be performed in the near future. It may be my bad English, but I didn't notice it mentioning that those organisms have returned from space alive and without any damage.

Plus surviving in Space for a short period is one thing while LIVING in the open space is another. And living includes feeding, moving in the desired direction and last but not least: reproducing.

Anyway, those "space worms" you see on the videos are nothing more but man-made cr@p and shuffle leftovers.
Who knows, maybe they're containers with astronaut sh!t in them?

One again I see people having a good old laugh at these little ideas that perhaps life can take on forms that we never expected. And so, for about the third time since writing to these boards, I have to point to this link...

Could alien life exist in the form of DNA-shaped dust?

See also...

From plasma crystals and helical structures towards inorganic living matter

I'm sure this will garner nothing more than know-it-all belly laughter but then, empty vessels make the most noise

The thing is that many people here mix few things with each other, and that mixing has no basis in logic.

Yes, life can _survive_ in space, it does not however evolve, breed or move at all. It stays in frozen, unanimated state until it finally dies or alternatively gets into an environment that is suitable for it to actually move, breed and evolve.

Frozen bacteria, viruses and other micro-organisms do not mean active life in space. A life that is travelling is not itself travelling, it has merely been forced to the surface or inside of some space rock by some force in its home world.

Many people believe that carbon is needed combined with water for like, but I remember seeing a video (which I've searched and searched for before posting this message,) which shows a place here on Earth which hasn't changed for billions of years. It was dated to around the time of Earths formation...and it contains LIFE! Tiny micro organisms living in harsh climate similar to how Earth began.

The scientists who discovered it are now rethinking about 'water means life.' Believe me, it's such a shame I can't find my reference to these claims and it pains me.

Albert Einstein once famously wondered whether God had a choice in how he created the universe. His still unanswered question drives physics to this day. Opportunity have found signs of ancient standing water on Mars. NASA's search for alien life is based on the strategy: "follow the water," and for obvious reasons, but I truly believe after doing research that that isn't always the case. That video in question I've seen clearly shows that Earth probably started with a surface much like Mars right now. No water, nothing. Yet life evolved on it. Did life on Earth come in the form of a meteorite? Who knows.



I have to agree. These space worms just need energy to live, and there are other forms of matter that they could feed on. People who come out with replies as "creatures can't survive in space," I ask you to show evidence. Not evidence that related to Earth, evidence from Space! That's right, you can't because none of us know enough about it. Heck, we've only touched down on Mars recently with a robot, let alone discover the very depths and physics of space!

Ammonia could be a valid alternative for example for life on other planets. Vast oceans could be formed full of ammonia, supporting life.



Life, at its essence, is a mechanism for turning energy into order and like mentioned above, I've seen apparent video footage of UFO's hovering above the Earths atmosphere during thunder storms. Many people claim they could be 'harvesting' the energy. I believe that's also possible as these beings could be millions more years advanced than us. If that's the case, then who are to argue what they can't and can't do!? The same could go for these 'spaceworms.' They could be using some form of photosynthesis. They could be harvesting an energy source in space that's unknown to us. As also mentioned above, we know very little about life at the depths of our planet, so how can some people stand and claim how life operates in space? Also I might add, the people who usually voice opinions on how life operates, have no degree in science what so ever!

Another example of life being supported without water could be looking for Nitrogen.



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There's many alternatives and possibilities for an energy source, or "how are they living" type questions.

Also life could be found deep within the surface of planets. Such a discovery was found on Earth:



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We know very little and are discovering new fascinating things daily in the realm of science. Spaceworms?! Who knows!

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How can you be so sure? Just because we know of how things here on earth react, doesn't mean that that's how everything in the universe acts. There is backround radiation EVERYWHERE in space. What if there is some creature that can absorb this radiation, and convert it into matter, and then using that as an effective way to propel itself by ejecting this matter.

Never a truer word, IMO.
And, for all those who'll demand evidence that'll back up my wacky theories, I have none. In defense, the reason I am willing to accept that there could be life existing way out there (and closer than we imagine) that simply would fry the brains of all dyed in the wool "realists", is said very clearly in supervortex2004's post.

We don't know absolutley everything regarding nature's ability to survive, and thrive.
Yes, we only have circumstantial evidence that suggests these space faring critters exist, but wasn't that how all creatures once regarded as fantastical (gorilla, giraffe, rhino) now ensconced in zoos and seen regularly on the Discovery Channel (and some close to extinction) were once viewed?

While maybe it's foolhardy to simply accept that these "space creatures" are sailing space several hundred miles above the atmosphere (and maybe also within it) without hard evidence, the possibility that they might, and the willingness to accept they might, is important.
The impossible can happen, and denying anything outside the accepted paradigm simply because it doesn't fit into the knowledge we've accumulated is, in my opinion, equally as foolhardy. If you prepare for the unexpected, your ready for anything.

After all, who would have thought that millions of years ago a simple, waterbourn creature on this gem of ours might have evolved so far that it manged to reach into space?

Edit: usual grammatical bloopers. Did I get 'em all?


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Here's something that will interest you. This does not concern future experiments. This has already been done and here are the results....



So, are 'space worms' an impossibility?

I don't know what the heck this is, but here's something that was photographed by the space shuttle...

YouTube Link

And what does NASA say? Spent rocket booster. Oh yeah! I didn't know that spent rocket boosters were transparent!! Did you?

Cheers!




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I am not absolutely certain of course, but there are a limited set of elements in existence. Currently it is believed that there are 118 elements, and not all of them are stable which leads to a bit smaller number of elements that would be of any use to life.

Not all of those elements are capable of being liquid or gas in temperatures that exist in vacuum of space. We can be quite certain that anything which exists in solid form cannot possibly form life as there would be no moving parts inside the organism.

The thing is that we do know most properties of elements and whenever there is no possibility of a reaction between them, life is not possible because of that one main reason I already stated: no moving parts, no reactions.

I don't know if there are any known mechanisms to turn any part of radiation spectrum into matter, perhaps there's some, maybe not. It may very well be that we may just not know of any.

But until that knowledge comes, life in vacuum of space remains a good sci-fi story whenever well written.

My own stance currently is that there may very well be unknown large life forms in upper atmosphere, although that would indeed require it to be undetectable to radars of all sorts. One could always argue that such radar sightings would not be reported. Counter-argument to that is as follows: It is virtually impossible for every single radar station on earth to be involved in same conspiracy.
edit: added a clarification of my own stance.

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Although this will only hurt my stace the subject, there would also not be a way to verbally comunicate in the vaccuum of space, since sound cannot travel in a vaccuum, even though there are recorded sounds from Jupiter, so this may actually help my stance. Being that, like it has been said, there is so much that we DON'T know about space. Scientifically, light can also not travel through a vaccuum, but, we see the sun every day. Heat can't travel though it either, but, we're not popsicles. So, there are conditions in space that allow certain things to contradict scientific discoveries.