Eating carbs doesn't lead to obesity and health problems, page 1
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Topic started on 30-9-2007 @ 01:20 PM by Beachcoma
It doesn't. In Asia we tend to eat a whole lot of carbs with meats and vegetables as the side dish in small portions. The percentage of overweight people here is relatively low. Of course genetic factors may be responsible to a degree, but I don't buy into the whole low-carb diet fad.

I eat a lot. In fact as I'm typing this I'm eating a white bread cream cheese sandwich. Not so much cheese, though, just enough to flavour the bread. I don't really exercise. But as a kid I used to walk miles and miles, so that probably factored in to my muscles being lean and burning calories whether I want to or not.

This past month I've been gorging myself in an effort to increase my weight. I've still got 4 kilograms to go so to get into the right body mass index (BMI). The whole eating a lot bit has only increased my weight by 200 grams a week. But what was it that I've been eating a lot? Bread, biscuits and cookies along with bowlfuls of rice. It's a painfully slow process that makes me bloated after every meal. All in the name of weight gain. Perhaps I should work out as well. Gain some muscle mass.

Anyway, enough about me and on to the purpose of this thread.



A professor at the University of Virginia has published a peer-reviewed paper that claims that "bad carbs" are not the enemy. In fact, he goes on to say that carbs aren't the enemy, period. Read on...


'Bad carbs' not the enemy, UV professor finds

The latest common wisdom on carbohydrates claims that eating so-called “bad” carbohydrates will make you fat, but University of Virginia professor Glenn Gaesser says, “that’s just nonsense.” Eating sandwiches with white bread, or an occasional doughnut, isn't going to kill you, or necessarily even lead to obesity, he said.

In an article in the October issue of the Journal of the American Dietetic Association, Gaesser analyzes peer-reviewed, scientific research on carbohydrate consumption, glycemic index and body weight and gives the first detailed review of the literature on the correlation between them. His findings run counter to the current consensus on the effects of “good” and “bad” carbohydrates.

Gaesser, author of “It’s the Calories, Not the Carbs” and other books, found that diets high in carbohydrates are almost universally associated with slimmer bodies. More importantly, Gaesser found that consuming lots of high-glycemic foods is not associated with higher body weights. In fact, several large studies in the United States revealed that high-glycemic diets were linked to better weight control.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


I agree whole-heartedly. The article ends by saying that a high-carb, low-fat diet is the best way to go.

Stop wolfing down those steaks and burgers. On the plus side you'll help save the planet, apparently.

Less Meat, Less Heat -- Fewer Steaks may Save Planet


reply posted on 30-9-2007 @ 01:25 PM by OzWeatherman
reply to post by Beachcoma



Anyway back on track, i reckon that carbs are only a problem if you dont regulate them with exercise. Thats when you start gaining unwanted weight. But obviously there are other factors than carbohydrates eg high fatty foods



reply posted on 1-10-2007 @ 08:40 AM by annestacey
MSG and other chemicals added to processed foods is what causes obesity.

If people would simply eat non-processed foods (fresh vegetables, fruits, nuts, etc.), there would be no obesity problems. But here in the U.S. it's common for the food industry to place these chemicals into every processed food that you buy. And a lot of it is hidden. They stopped listing MSG on most food labels because of the uproar several years ago over the dangers of MSG. Now there's a long list of other ingredients that MSG is hidden in so people don't know they're consuming it.

The link between monosodium glutamate (MSG) and obesity

But how does MSG cause obesity? Like aspartame, MSG is an excitotoxin, a substance that overexcites neurons to the point of cell damage and, eventually, cell death. Humans lack a blood-brain barrier in the hypothalamus, which allows excitotoxins to enter the brain and cause damage, according to Dr. Russell L. Blaylock in his book Excitotoxins. According to animal studies, MSG creates a lesion in the hypothalamus that correlates with abnormal development, including obesity, short stature and sexual reproduction problems.


It's sad that people waste money on all of the latest diet scams, without realizing that they're just continuing to eat the foods that keep them fat. That includes those weight-watcher meals.

If you just consume what the body needs and get a moderate amount of exercise, your body will take on it's ideal weight naturally. It's so very important to get off the chemicals.


reply posted on 1-10-2007 @ 10:56 AM by Badge01
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What is your maintenance level of calories? You say 1000 calories/day is extremely restrictive, but if you don't know your maintenance, that is meaningless. A smaller person might only need 1000-1200 calories to maintain their weight.

Did you count calories while on the Atkin's diet? Even though you might not be consuming carbs, it's quite easy to exceed your limit since fat is higher in calories than protein and carbs. It contains > twice as much energy (9 kcal/g) as carbohydrates and proteins (4 kcal/g).


reply posted on 1-10-2007 @ 01:30 PM by Beachcoma
reply to post by Badge01



"The percentage here is relatively low." As in relative to the West. In the past decade it has increased after McDonalds invaded China, as the people of China's income bracket has increased.

Try to look for correlates. It wasn't always that way. What changed? Fast food came.


reply posted on 1-10-2007 @ 03:33 PM by sardion2000
Originally posted by sir_chancealot
There are only 2 ways that I can lose weight.....

1) Go on an extremely restricted diet (Like about 1,000 "calories" a day). At that rate, I will loose 1 or 2 pounds a WEEK. The last time I did this, I dropped 30 pounds in about 3 months, but I was hungry all the time.

2) Go carb-free. I will loose 1-2 pounds A DAY. I lost 30 pounds in 30 days on the Atkins diet. (The 30 pounds I gained back from the other diet) And no, no one has 30 pounds of "excess water". Interestingly enough, the more FAT I add to the diet, the quicker I will lose weight. At one point (for 2 or 3 days), I was eating a half pound of bacon for breakfast, and dipping it in 1/4 stick of real butter. I was losing 3 pounds a DAY when I did that. It does get expensive though. You never go hungry on the Atkins diet.

[edit on 1-10-2007 by sir_chancealot]


Both are incredibly dangerous ways to lose weight.

The BEST way to reduce your weight is to cut out ALL processed Sugars and Grains PERIOD and instead of eating 3 big meals a day, eat 6 smaller meals spaces at 3-3 1/2 hours apart. Stop eating when you aren't hungry anymore. DO NOT EAT UNTIL YOU ARE STUFFED!!!!!!

Oh yeah, and excersize helps as well. I know what you're gonna say. "I got no time for excersizing after school/work cuz I'm just too tired" Well if you start excersizing, in a few months you will STOP BEING TIRED AND LAZY AFTER YOUR WORK DAY IS OVER! You will gradually build stamina and you'll look and feel sooo much better.

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reply posted on 2-10-2007 @ 04:50 AM by Beachcoma
reply to post by Relentless



Funny you should mention gluten intolerance. I can't take barley, gives me stomach cramps and sometimes diarrhoea.

Overall I feel ok. Usually hungry even after a meal. Sometimes I get light headed for no apparent reason, though. That's kind of worrying.
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