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Cheney to Address Top Secret Conservative Policy Group

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posted on Sep, 30 2007 @ 11:51 AM
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Cheney to Address Top Secret Conservative Policy Group


rawstory.com

An ultra-secret conservative group -- so secret that members don't even use the group's name in communications -- will feature Vice President Dick Cheney as a speaker at a meeting in Utah today.

"Cheney will address the fall meeting of the Council for National Policy, a group whose self-described mission is to promote 'a free-enterprise system, a strong national defense and support for traditional Western values," according to the Salt Lake City Tribune.
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posted on Sep, 30 2007 @ 11:51 AM
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I don't know exactly what to say. I had never heard of the Council for Nation Policy until today. Or maybe I had, and the name is so bland, and benign sounding that it left my memory. Either way, after looking around ATS, I see that this 'top secret' group may not have America's best interests in mind like they say they do.

I am not saying that this meeting is 'foreshadowing' any event, but it does seem to take a bit to get Cheney to appear in public, especially sunlight.

DocMoreau

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posted on Sep, 30 2007 @ 12:07 PM
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hmm its only coincidence that utah is largely mormon. Also odd how I remember hearing about a mormon plot to make america a stupid lame place by introducing fake religion, marketing and mind control. What a bunch of losers this board must be. i only resist secretive men, because they usually are scheming something evil.



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 12:00 AM
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Wow, 80 views, and 1 reply... Am I missing something? Cheney is off speaking to powerful secret groups, and only one person wants to speculate.

Oh well...

Personally I hate how secretive Cheney seems to be already, and this makes me even more peeved. I want to know more about what Cheney has been doing. What I have found already makes me think he should be tried as a traitor to America. Even the face shooting thing of his friend... I know he is VP, but they should have handled that way different. The way they handled the situation was not good practice for those who advocate gun rights. Either way, I can't wait til 2008!

DocMoreau



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 12:08 AM
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I'm not worried about 'em. They were founded by that idiot Tim LaHaye, who was behind the "Left Behind" drivel. Cheney's political clout is gone, I don't see him being a major political figure once Bush is gone.



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 02:10 AM
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Well, if I should comment by my heart to the topic I would run the risk of not only getting banned, but a target for SS as well, soo...

I'll just contribute with my signature.

To uberarcanist: No, Cheney never cared about politics, he's only in it for money (weapons and drugs), theThan Shwe of the US.



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 02:15 AM
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Cheney is not worth listening to. All he wants is more blood around the planet. He doesnt have a peaceful bone in his body. Did you know he intentionally took command of NORAD during 9/11 so he could order them to ignore the airplanes so they could crash into the towers, killing 3000 people? I bet he got a orgasm when that happened.



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 07:01 AM
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While we should all be concerned about secretive men and their respective clubs, I would be more concerned about the large thinktank policy groups such as the CFR and the ever fearsome Carlyle Group

I wonder why they need so many secret clubhouses? Reliving boyhood dreams?



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 07:59 AM
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Well, maybe they are introverts?

Social anxiety?

They despise the term Socialist so much that they mistakenly became anti-social?

Secrets make them feel special?

They just want to have something they can call their own, like the Cheers of the government, where everyone knows their name and the pres. (cliff claven) can have a beer with the V.P. (Norm)?

I dunno.



I will agree to keep my eyes and my mind open as the next few years unfold ... but, honestly, we should NEVER STOP doing so, even if we like what is going on, who is in office, and, what they are doing. You can never be too cautious.



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by uberarcanist
They were founded by that idiot Tim LaHaye, who was behind the "Left Behind" drivel.

Source on that please? I do find that interesting.
thanks.

Sounds like they should name the club more secretive. National Policy? How about a football watchers club? That would be less likely to get attention.



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 09:00 AM
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Actually, this sort of thing scares me MORE than other such 'secret' meetings of claundestine groups.

Just hearing "Left Behind" makes me realise that some of these people are really a doomsday cult, no matter what wrapping you put on it. They believe the end is near and act accordingly in life.

And THEY get the ear of the vice president and other noteables?

Could you imagine the outcry if say, Clinton had spent time with a left radical group in secret?

watch.pair.com...

(list of members)

watch.pair.com...

(go down towards the end of the page for the section on the CNP)

www.seekgod.ca...

(another list of members)

I find it ironic that most sites I find info about these guys are religious in nature, warning against the CNP.

And in reading this article, (I cannot find a date, so not sure when it was written):

abcnews.go.com...



The CNP describes itself as a counterweight against liberal domination of the American agenda.

... the CNP is simply and nothing but a self-selected, conservative counterweight to the influential center-left establishment.


And I wonder, is there a liberal equivilant? Maybe we're foolish to not have more groups that focus on the exchange of knowledge among influential people of a like mind, who fear the direction others of those of a mind unlike ours might take the country, and the world.

Because, /I/ fear where a group like the CNP might wish to take us.



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 09:13 AM
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It is also possible they are calling Cheney out to the rug. He is big, but he is not the whole show, this Iran, possible military saying no mess might be something they wish to address.

Who else is in attendance, are the rest sending spokesmans, or are the big NWO's themselves their?

Note that Cheney also went to a speech in Utah earlier this year, about 5 months ago. BYU university. And where they hold meetings may be an indication of respect or shifting power, if you buy into the factions idea.

I kinda think Mitt Romney might be the Mormon wing trying to make a play for more power, if so Cheney might want to know exactly where his leaders stand.



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 09:30 AM
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Talking about the Carlyle Group, I remember when Bush stated that "Profit Trump Peace" in a media conference and seeing a complete lack of outrage by the Republicans (since Republicans rarely criticize each other) or the Democrats (who are too weak and afraid to do anything about it). The Bush family & friends must be raking it in by the boatloads - to have Bush Jr. be so audacious to say that in public. At this point I can't see the American people having the will or determination to change the course of the country. Sometimes I wonder who's fault it will be when it all comes down, our leadership or the common citizen.



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 09:47 AM
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posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 09:59 AM
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It has already came down, we are just now seeing it, it has been here for years. They know some will always see threw, they just keep the numbers low enough, and accept a push back, like Carter, if people notice to much, make people notice, then the push back can happen.



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 10:04 AM
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Confirmation of LaHaye's role in founding this group can also be found here:

query.nytimes.com...



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 11:53 AM
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I think he's going because the Republican party is about to lose Christians. For ages the Republicans could take Christians for granted much like the Democrats take minorities for granted.

thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com...

I think times are changing, everyone can feel that there is something very wrong with our government and that it doesn't really seem to represent the people anymore. With bush approval ratings around 30% or less, and congress even lower, around 11 or 12 percent, people are starting to look for a third party. Even the democrats are starting to realize that the candidates that are presented for them choose from are preselected government hacks who will only support the status quo.

The fact is though is that there is really a choice this time if people will only do the necessary reseach and truely support the correct candidate. If not, we will be destined to follow a path, not in our best interest, that has been chosen for us.



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 01:47 PM
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I am glad I 'bumped' the thread yesterday. I knew there had to be more to this 'secret group' than I could find. Its hard looking for information on a secret group if you don't know where to start.

In my mind I thought it was odd at the Choice of Cheney as a running mate in 2000. I didn't think he was an electable VP. I guess I underestimated the politcal clout of Bush... or at least the levels he was willing to stoop to in order to achieve his goals. In retrospect, CHeney is his perfect VP.

ATS is the best, all of you keep denying ignorance!
DocMoreau



posted on Oct, 2 2007 @ 04:20 PM
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An update on this story.

From here:

thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com...

www.salon.com...

I guess we now know what they're up to in their little secret meeting. Seems there's talk of a third party candidate in the elections if Giuliani gets the Republican nomination.

The Christian Right isn't much on Rudy Giuliani it seems.

It would potentially guarantee the win for Democrats, splitting the Republican vote like that.



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 07:13 PM
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reply to post by Jadette
 


Nice Follow Up. It seems that the Christian Right might want to reconsider that idea. I understand not liking Guiliani, I don't, but that would give the election to the Democrats for sure. I would think that they would rather have Guiliani than Clinton. Maybe I am wrong...

I guess they prefer Mitt Romney, and I am not just saying that because he is Mormon...
DocMoreau



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