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Taliban: 'We will not negotiate'

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posted on Sep, 30 2007 @ 10:35 AM
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Taliban: 'We will not negotiate'


www.cnn.com

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) -- President Hamid Karzai's office said Sunday that there is "serious debate" among some Taliban fighters about laying down arms, while a spokesman for the militants said they will "never" negotiate with Afghan authorities until foreign troops leave.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Sep, 30 2007 @ 10:35 AM
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Karzia has publicly stated that he would allow the Taliban positions in the government for peace, however the Taliban will not negotiate until foreign forces leave.

A peace possible in Afghanistan? Will they just return to Shia law or could the government hold together?

Do you thinks its likely the US will withdraw from Afganistan ever?

www.cnn.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Sep, 30 2007 @ 10:40 AM
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the US is like a coldsore.
once its there, its there for life... sure it may be beneath the surface for a while, but it will always be back sooner or later.

in short we will never leave afaghanistan (opium money) opium has gone up tons since we tookover...the taliban actully burn the fields.

we will never leave iraq (oil money)

truly disgusting



posted on Sep, 30 2007 @ 10:40 AM
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double post sorry

[edit on 30-9-2007 by TheRepublic]



posted on Sep, 30 2007 @ 10:59 AM
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Just for clarity


"Of particular worry is the Taliban's involvement in the drug trade. Drug profits now support elements of the Taliban and fund attacks on U.S. and NATO forces. While counter-narcotics efforts intensified last year, results to date are insufficient. More must be done."

A new United Nations report warns that one reason opium production in Afghanistan could rise again this year is because the Taliban are using it to fund their terrorist activities. Antonio Maria Costa, executive director of the U-N Office on Drugs and Crime, said that "the vicious circle of drugs funding terrorism and terrorists supporting drug traffickers is stronger than ever" in southern Afghanistan, with "a pronounced divide" between the south and the more stable center and north. This means, he said, that opium cultivation in southern Afghanistan is less a narcotics issue and "more a matter of insurgency, so it is vital to fight them both together."

VOA News

Also,

If we are in Iraq for the oil, can you please provide evidence that Iraq oil is currently flowing to us? Particularly in any quantities or as we are there for it, perhaps at a discount?

I believe that Oil is at either an all time high, or close to it. So if we are there for the oil, WHEW!! We better get out before all that oil we are getting drives the price up even more....????.....

Semper



posted on Sep, 30 2007 @ 11:35 AM
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Afghanistan, well, if Iraq didn't come into Bush's picture, the efforts in Afghanistan would probably been concluded years ago, including a successful program to destroy the opium and plant less profitable but needed agricultural crops.

Taliban was all but eliminated from the war and political arena there until (non UN mandated) forces were no longer enhanced , then partially moved to Kuwait to set for the Iraq Invasion.

I don't think any Country want's to stay there and if residual forces remain in the coming years, I would think it will be due to having some, that is some effect on keeping Binny and his Alqaeda boys from infesting the Country again to run their murder operations.

Dallas



posted on Sep, 30 2007 @ 11:35 AM
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From 2001, Under Taliban rule the Afghanistan Opium Said Wiped Out because of religious reasons.


U.N. drug control officers said the Taliban religious militia has virtually wiped out opium production in Afghanistan ¡ª once the world's largest producer ¡ª since banning poppy cultivation in July.

A 12-member team from the U.N. Drug Control Program spent two weeks searching most of the nation's largest opium-producing areas and found so few poppies that they do not expect any opium to come out of Afghanistan this year.



Today under a US backed government Opium Harvest at Record Level in Afghanistan


The Taliban had distributed leaflets at night, inviting farmers to increase their poppy cultivation in exchange for protection, Mr. Costa said. The rebels also profit from levies in return for protection of drug convoys passing through the border areas they controlled.

There were also signs of a pernicious strategy to encourage farmers to increase poppy cultivation in an effort to force a government reaction, which would then turn the population further against the government, Mr. Costa said.

But he did not blame only the Taliban for the increase. He specifically accused the former governor of Helmand Province, Sher Muhammad Akhund, of encouraging farmers to grow more poppies in the months before he was removed from office. The result was an increase of 160 percent in that “villain province” from its harvest last year, he said, the highest rise in the country.


Disinfo here?



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 09:31 AM
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thank you.

the taliban worked to get rid of opium. they hate the stuff. the muslim world is very much against addictions to things like that. almost all of my muslim freinds wont even drink a beer. they are morally opposed to it. if people dont want to wake up to whats really going on that is fine, but dont spread dis info around....


and to the guy who said we are not in iraq for oil... greenspan himself said that was why we went there...
www.washingtonpost.com...

you must be one of the few people who actully still belives that poo...or you are just spreading patriotic propaganda disinfo...



[edit on 1-10-2007 by TheRepublic]



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 09:41 AM
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If we are in Iraq for the oil, can you please provide evidence that Iraq oil is currently flowing to us? Particularly in any quantities or as we are there for it, perhaps at a discount?


economically oil is an open system. all oil from everywhere enters the same market, so it dosnt matter where it goes as long as it does go on the market.

if iraqi oil goes to turkey, the turks dont use oil that they would have gotten from somewhere else. it only matters how much oil is on the market not where it came from.

but it isnt about benefitting "us"...its about benifiting the people who really run this country, the rich owners of the corperations, many of them in oil.

iraq was a threat to their system, like greenspan said... iraq was a soverign nation that had the 4th largest reserves in the world. rather than allow iraq to up production and use opec to get what their oil should be worth to benifit their citezens, the corperations decided to cook up some propaganda and launch us into war. this "war" is more like a bank hiest.

same thing in afaghanistan. cia needs drug money (contras anyone) taliban wanted to stop it "hey, lets bomb afghanistan and get rid of their government)

such bull



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 09:48 AM
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Opium production has gone thru the roof since coalition forces invaded Afghanistan...Proof or links ? Do the research yourself and quit being lazy if you disagree...

The fact is, the constant flow of opium out of Afghanistan financially benefits the US...US forces have been known to traffic narcotics for a long time now...

Why would they act against same when its such a good earner for them ?

Peace



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 09:55 AM
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hahaha, well his source is "voice of america"

from their own page:



Editorials

Reflecting the Views of the
United States Government


if that is the most non objective source that he gets his information from, i think this is hopeless.



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 09:56 AM
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Very well said and it wasn't about getting the oil, U.N. to let Iraq sell oil for euros, not dollars We had to control How the oil got to the market.



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