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I think you are putting up a good debate here, however I think you are wrong.
You have used scripture out of text to justify a belief.
You have used scripture from:
I feel most of these are not connected in any way.
Do any other Christians agree with whirlwind point of view?
One Christian I know told me not to speak to you I do however find it interesting.
I believe if the original sin was sex, the bible would have said so, clearly, and not having to goto the old and new testament to come to a conclusion.
Originally posted by whirlwind
But they are connected. The very fact that it is scattered throughout the Bible shows the validiity of the teaching. Satan was there at the beginning as he will be at the end. That is what all this is about....the conflict between good and evil. Why do you feel they are taken out of context?
Originally posted by helen670
reply to post by agoodshot
You have quoted Scripture correctly, but some still do not understand the actual meaning of why God came in the form of a man....
Some believe that God is worshiped falsely as three Gods....this not true, but many have been very much misinformed to the actual meaning of Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Did God need to do this?
No, He did not, but because man brought on Sin to the whole earth, man was needed to destroy sin ...
No man was found worthy to destroy sin, but God Himself.....
God took upon Himself to be the Suffering Messiah......as the Old Testament prophets foretold of His Crucifixion and sufferings.........
The most vivid and detailed prediction about the sufferings of the Messiah is the prophecy of Isaiah, which occupies one and a half chapters of his book (the end of the 52nd and all of the 53rd). This prophecy contains such details of the sufferings of Christ, that the reader gets the impression that the prophet Isaiah wrote it at the foot of Golgotha, even though, as we know, the prophet Isaiah lived over seven centuries BC. We present here this prophecy.
'' And He bore the sin of many, And made intercession for the transgressors” (Is. 53:1-12).
[edit on 9/30/2007 by helen670]
Was the forbidden fruit sexual relations, as some have held? This view finds no support in Scripture. For one thing, when God made the prohibition, Adam was alone and evidently remained that way for a while. (Genesis 2:23)
Second, God told Adam and Eve to “be fruitful and become many and fill the earth.” (Genesis 1:28) Certainly, he would not command them to break his law and then sentence them to death for doing so! (1 John 4:8)
Third, Eve partook of the fruit before Adam and later gave some to her husband. (Genesis 3:6) Adam and Eve sinned separately, not simultaneously. Chapter 3, verse 6, makes it clear that Eve was seduced to eat of the fruit first and that “afterward she gave some also to her husband when with her and he began eating it.” So eating of the forbidden fruit would make an inept and farfetched symbol of sexual intercourse.
Clearly, the fruit was not sex.
And you are throwing up a few quotes to attack "their" God Jesus... Whats your point? So its ok to attack but stupid to defend? Great logic.
Originally posted by arpgme
I've made a topic like this already but they just won't listen. They throw Bible Verses after Bible Verse to defend their "God" Jesus.
Originally posted by puzzled2
If you need to be told "You shall have no other gods before Me "
does that imply thats there's more than 1 that you could choose from?
If he has a son does that mean he has parents too?
Does he have a wife?
Does she have different parents?
Are the any siblings aunts uncles ......
But if he is his son he didn't give up anything, and if he didn't die then what was the scarifice on the cross.
Finally whats with the Virgin Mother - gotta be the biggest load of idols and worshipping before god that anyone can do...
Originally posted by lee anoma
Add Mary into the mix and things get even weirder. People bow, pray and worship the "holy mother" as if she herself were their God and to me that is a contradiction of biblical rules as well.
The rosaries that Catholics recite are but the expression of their belief in these two truths. ( READ THE LINK for an E X P L A N A T I O N )They know that if Mary speaks to her Divine Son in their behalf, there can be no doubt about their receiving an answer to their prayers.
“in the Roman Catholic Church, images are venerated as symbols of the people represented by them.”