Originally posted by Funkydung
yep this was the flesh talking about the spirit that was inside of him....the spirit is greater than the flesh.
This is the most common response from trinitarians. They claim that any statements made by Jesus, that indicates the superior position of the Father
must be true only because he was still in the flesh, that is, not ascended yet.
Pehaps you should consider what was said of his relationship with the God after he ascended.
This was from 1 Crointhians 11:3
I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.”
Revised Standard Version.
Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after
Jesus returned to heaven. So the truth here stated applies to the relationship between God and Christ in heaven.
Or This one; also years after he ascended.
1 Cor 15:27-28 Revised Standard
“‘God has put all things in subjection under his [Jesus’] feet.’ But when it says, ‘All things are put in subjection under him,’ it is
plain that he is excepted who put all things under him. When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who
put all things under him, that God may be everything to every one.”
Both of these verses indicate Jesus subserviant role in relation to his Father, God the Almighty. And again, both after his asscension.
The role of Father & Son is well defined. Jesus in his exalted heavenly position after his resurrection is still not equal to the Father.
Another interesting point: The Hebrew word Shad·dai′ and the Greek word Pan·to·kra′tor are both translated “Almighty.” Both
original-language words are repeatedly applied to the Father. (Ex. 6:3; Rev. 19:6) Neither expression is ever applied to either the Son or the holy
spirit.
Consider too
1 Pet. 1:3, RS: “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ!”
Repeatedly, even following Jesus’ ascension to heaven, the Scriptures refer to the Father as “the God” of Jesus Christ.
At John 20:17, following Jesus’ resurrection, he himself spoke of the Father as “my God.” Later, when in heaven, as recorded at Revelation 3:12,
he again used the same expression. But never in the Bible is the Father reported to refer to the Son as “my God,” nor does either the Father or
the Son refer to the holy spirit as “my God.”
The Pagan doctrine of the trinity is not supported by the scriptures.