reply to scepticsRus
From the way that you immediatly attacked him once he responds make me think that you are on some kinda witch hunt here .... out to provoke a
response what you know will get other like-minded individuals to jump on the band waggon turning this in to an anti john lear thread.
I didn’t immediately attack him…….I waited a few posts in then went at him, lol. I shouldn’t joke like that; people like you fail to see humor
when it comes to this sort of thing. John is supposed to be an EXPERT
in this field, as his good friend Jim Rhodes (spelling?) calls him “an
expert investigator and an impeccable, detail orientated observer”. Expert investigator huh? The fact that he does not have the presence of mind to
ask for a tape of only the most earth shattering thing that could prove almost everything he claims is true……..WHAT?!?!? Expert investigator?
Investigators DOCUMENT things. Especially things that could prove them to be right when making such outrageous claims. Hard to believe after YEARS of
investigating this sort of thing, and being considered the top investigator by many, that he comes in contact with some of the most amazing things,
people and evidence and does not have the presence of mind to document it? Expert investigator my rear end, sir.
Do i have to remind you that john has never "claimed" anything
Now, if your conclusions lead you to think that what john is writing is utter rubbish then leave it at that there is no need to continually try
to bash the man verbally trying to get others on your side.
Bashing him verbally? Johns got pretty tough skin, and I’m sure he doesn’t see this as verbal bashing. When you make outrageous claims, such as he
does, this kind of disbelief is par for the course. Most people who make outrageous claims never seem to be able to back them up, maybe that’s what
makes them outrageous. I don’t know. But here is what I am getting at:
John is supposed to be this expert investigator. Top in his field, and respected by his peers. He might be the loudest and outspoken, with the biggest
blind following….but top investigator? Other than ordering a bunch of moon photos and outlining “buildings” and “fusion reactors” (LOL) he
always seems to be able to distance himself from his own claims. If you don’t know what I mean by this, I will allow others to explain it to you, as
plenty of people around here have noticed and have been saying stuff right on this very board about it.
i think that it is VERY probable that we have already been to Mars, not using robots but actual human presence.
Are you sure you understand that probable means more likely than not?
I know that ITF has commented on some of my threads in the past with the comments "they are just rocks .... etc" that may be the case, but
that may not be the case .... all we are asking is that you keep an open mind and ask yourself the question ..... what if ????
Yeah, and so has dozens of others. I know it must upset you that most of us don’t see what you see in a pile of dusty rocks, sorry. And I do ask,
and wonder, what if? That’s why I am here. That’s why all of us are here. Plus, it’s a discussion board, so when you post a thread, people are
going to reply to it. I should hope that you know in advance that not a lot of people are going to see things your way before you post.
On the experiements that john witnessed, if you are not a scientist of some kind you would never realise whats happening, nor would you
immediatly appreciate what you are seeing and you are not really going to take notes and gather assumptions or predictions prior to the experiements.
This has nothing to do with John understanding the scientific experiment he was present for. Hell I wouldn’t either. But, my point here, if you have
not gathered it by now, is that he didn’t need to. Only needed to document it in an indisputable fashion. I mean, come on…..he was “working”
in the presence of something that would prove A LOT of things about ufology could be more than true, lol. What kind of investigator would overlook the
importance of “element 115”, you know…the stuff that powers the "alien ships they keep out at Area 51". How could an investigator not be
bothered to better document, or get a sample of something that important? So he could go back to outlining mysterious shapes on fuzzy moon pictures
and get laughed at by anybody that has common sense, reason and logic? Why, man, why!? Do think for a second if Stanton Friedman had a piece of the
Roswell ufo that he is so obsessed about, he would just dismiss it so casually then continue the lecture circuit talking about how he hopes one day
the truth will come out? Unless of course that piece of ufo was just made up, or fake….then there would not be the sense of urgency to document
it…only talk about it to make yourself look like you are "so close" or closer than the average ufology peon so you can maintain your "cult like"
status or paying followers.
I think that the evidance that you insist on having does exist but is continually being supressed by the all the govs involved in the cover
hence any attempt to publish this info will be blocked
Not a chance in today’s non-media controlled environment. Try me, give me the evidence and see if someone could suppress it, lol. That excuse is
old, very old, and not well thought out. But it is a convenient one, so nothing you believe can ever be proven.
On the subject of bob having the only copy of the video of the 115 experiement. John, if the tape still exists and is in a viewable state,
would there be any possibility of getting a copy of it from bob and putting it onto ATS?
Come on, John is a brilliant investigator, the top in his field according to his peers. He surely would have tried to “get the smoking gun” years
ago and couldn’t. Oppps, I stole his thunder. I’ll wait for him to come in here and tell you why he can’t and never will be able to provide this
crucial piece of evidence. Of course, a real investigator would have documented the whole process, the whole evening due to the importance of this
little piece of material that would darn near prove or disprove everything you stand for and thousands of people blieve in with far less evidence?