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reply posted on 16-1-2008 @ 03:59 AM by spacevisitor
Originally posted by deezee
And even if we forget all this, i find it very hard to believe, he could smuggle some top secret government stuff out of Area 51.


I must admit, that this is a good point, because I wander that myself to.

Originally posted by deezee
Originally posted by spacevisitor
Well, for most scientist so far, it is absolute scientifically impossible that they has the ability to come here, and what is the reality, they are here.


I'm sorry, but that is just another speculation or rather belief.


No problem, if you really are convinced that the extraterrestrial reality is nothing more then speculation or rather belief, then I respect your opinion, despite I absolute don’t understand it in any way.

Originally posted by deezee
I think it's very probable life exists elsewhere in the universe.
If we are being visited is another matter entirely. Currently we don't understand how it could even be possible, which is why scientists don't believe it,


There are already scientists who know its true and talk about it in public, and there are many scientists who know also its true, but dare not to speak about it in any way.

Originally posted by deezee
but i do hope, some day we find a way.


100% shore, no question about that.

Originally posted by deezee
At the same time, i've seen some videos from NASA, that seem to show interesting stuff, and i almost want to believe it's real. But again, i can not say for sure.


Can you tell me which videos you have seen?

Originally posted by deezee
From what i can tell, you are also willing, to at least consider other people's points of view and discuss them and for that i respect you, no matter what your beliefs are.


As I said myself, I really respect your opinion to.


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reply posted on 16-1-2008 @ 04:17 AM by spacevisitor
reply to post by buddhasystem



Originally posted by buddhasystem
It's all a matter of probabilities. John Lear may well be an android from the Galaxy, sent here to Earth to study humans for the benefit of supreme being Zmorrg, who is actually a giant pulsating brain inside a neutron star located in Zeta Reticuli. You don't know that, and you'll never have proof that he's not, don't you think? Because, you know, Zmorrg knows best.

I just find so many holes in the story surrounding the 115, as well as in Lazar's supposed expertise in physics, that in all likelihood, the whole thing is bunk. Just like the above Zmorrg-Lear connection.


Well, I say you this, I despise your low level remarks you make here, and in an earlier posting under the note, PS. For moderators: this is a joke.

Discussion is a good thing, and there is also nothing wrong with disagreeing with each other, but stay at least polite.


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reply posted on 16-1-2008 @ 09:36 AM by buddhasystem
Originally posted by spacevisitor
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post by buddhasystem



Originally posted by buddhasystem
It's all a matter of probabilities. John Lear may well be an android from the Galaxy, sent here to Earth to study humans for the benefit of supreme being Zmorrg, who is actually a giant pulsating brain inside a neutron star located in Zeta Reticuli. You don't know that, and you'll never have proof that he's not, don't you think? Because, you know, Zmorrg knows best.

I just find so many holes in the story surrounding the 115, as well as in Lazar's supposed expertise in physics, that in all likelihood, the whole thing is bunk. Just like the above Zmorrg-Lear connection.


Well, I say you this, I despise your low level remarks you make here, and in an earlier posting under the note, PS. For moderators: this is a joke.

Discussion is a good thing, and there is also nothing wrong with disagreeing with each other, but stay at least polite.


Pray tell, why do you consider my Element 115 remarks to be "low level"? And why are you accusing me of being not polite?

Look, this is a far out conspiracy site. I proposed a theory (not insisting in any way that I'm convinced it's true) that there is Supreme Being Zmorrg who resides inside a neutron star. I may even have data to back it up, but first I need to make sure I trust you (which I currently don't).

It's nothing but an inocuous statement that maybe Zmorrg may be up for something no good. Maybe (maybe!) I am myself Zmorrg's agent who has second thoughts about his mission on Earth.

Please note now that there is a lot of commonality between the Zmorrg story and what we are told about a strange specimen of Element 115 currently in possession of Bob Lazar. There is no proof of any kind, just anecdotal reports from Bob. You are telling me I can't deny that the said specimen can be used for space travel. By the same logic, you can't deny the existence of Zmorrg and his meddling in our planet's affairs.

You know full well that the Zmorrg-Lear connection was a joke in good faith (although a few people may feel honored if implicated in the context of service to the mighty Zmorrg). And yet you are crying mommy as if I called somebody names. This is telling me that you know deep inside that your logic has gaps, that you have no good reasons to believe Bob and yet you want to believe it so badly that my critique of your reasoning causes an allergic reaction in you.


reply posted on 16-1-2008 @ 10:05 AM by spacevisitor
reply to post by buddhasystem



Originally posted by buddhasystem
Pray tell, why do you consider my Element 115 remarks to be "low level"? And why are you accusing me of being not polite?


Always twisting the facts right, so I show you it ones again.
This are the in my opinion your low level remarks who I despise, and ask you therefore to be more polite.

John Lear may well be an android from the Galaxy, sent here to Earth to study humans for the benefit of supreme being Zmorrg, who is actually a giant pulsating brain inside a neutron star located in Zeta Reticuli.

I really wander what the Mods take on this bxlshxt is?


reply posted on 16-1-2008 @ 10:11 AM by MrPenny
reply to post by spacevisitor



Ring...ring....ring....ring.......

"Hello?.....oh..it's the clue phone....it's for you."

Some people simply don't get irony or sarcasm.......


reply posted on 16-1-2008 @ 10:18 AM by buddhasystem
reply to post by spacevisitor



You keep calling Mods' attention to a well advertised and explained joke that in no serious way implies that John is an android. If you are low on the sense of humor, get some rest. I personally refuse to keep a straight face every waking minute, expecially when looking at some claims that have, actually, some serious comic value ($115).

Now, the fact that you and the other member are invoking the wrath of Mods on my humble person, in the face of complete absence of any real offense on my part, is telling me that you going through a short-circuit of sorts -- the thing that you so dearly love to believe is shown to be not supported by facts and in many ways to be contradicting the known facts. For that, you have my sympathy.




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reply posted on 16-1-2008 @ 10:59 AM by spacevisitor
reply to post by buddhasystem



Originally posted by buddhasystem
You keep calling Mods' attention to a well advertised and explained joke that in no serious way implies that John is an android.


So, I suppose then, that you will laugh your head off, with this clearly obvious joke.

Sure, In fact, I submit that BS is nothing more then a professional debunker who is sent here from the Galaxy of “debunkasmuchasyoucan” some ware out there in deep space, or even another demension, to specifically derail useful UFO information and thus keep the public from knowing the truth. I have solid evidence of that, but I won't share any with you, for fear that they'll make an attempt on my life.

PS. For moderators: this is a joke.


reply posted on 16-1-2008 @ 11:25 AM by buddhasystem
reply to post by spacevisitor



Excellent, spacevisitor! You start making progress. Yes, me being a professional debunker, John being under telepathic control of Supreme Being Zmorrg, who is a giant pulsating brain inside a neutron star, and Bob Lazar having a piece of element 115 -- all these claims belong in the same bin.


reply posted on 16-1-2008 @ 11:56 AM by spacevisitor
reply to post by buddhasystem



Originally posted by buddhasystem
Excellent, spacevisitor! You start making progress. Yes, me being a professional debunker,


Thank you for your compliment,
and I hope you give me a star for it to sometime ..


reply posted on 16-1-2008 @ 12:20 PM by spacevisitor
reply to post by MrPenny



Originally posted by MrPenny
reply to post by spacevisitor



Ring...ring....ring....ring.......


Sorry, I didn’t here you because my audio was off.

Originally posted by MrPenny
"Hello?.....oh..it's the clue phone....it's for you."


What you mean by that, is it the clue phone or is the phone glued?

Originally posted by MrPenny
Some people simply don't get irony or sarcasm.......


Your absolute, no doubt in my mind, right about that.


reply posted on 16-1-2008 @ 12:35 PM by spacevisitor
reply to post by buddhasystem



Originally posted by buddhasystem
I just did, in fact.


Thanks buddhasystem, you are a real sport.

Originally posted by buddhasystem
Supreme Being Zmorrg sends his regards..


Well, I must be dreaming, but what the heck, thank him/her [you never know] for that, from the bottom of my heart.

Originally posted by buddhasystem
and recommends that you don't take Lazar's element 115 too seriously.


Well you know, Dutchmen are a bit stubborn, so, I doe the best I can.


reply posted on 16-1-2008 @ 12:42 PM by spacevisitor
reply to post by MajesticTwelve



Hi MajesticTwelve, can you in any way provide us the evidence to prove that?


reply posted on 16-1-2008 @ 05:31 PM by buddhasystem
Originally posted by MajesticTwelve
reply to
post by spacevisitor



Well John Lear


Greetings MJ12,

you were asked about an evidence. John Lear is not an evidence. He's a human.
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