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Originally posted by Pilgrum
2. He states that the formed cylinder was then machined into a conical shape. Thinking that this would be the most valuable material on the planet I was horrified to think that 50% of it would be machined away
Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
I'd like to welcome any new element 115 curiosity seekers.
Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
And remember, this is only one small part to debunking that fraud Bob, but it stands to reason if this is crap, then so is everything else he was crying about.
"This just opens up the horizon on the periodic table," said Ken Moody, Livermore's team leader. "It allows us to expand the fundamental principles of chemistry. From new chemistry comes new materials and new technology."
"Twenty years ago, no one would have ever thought that this was possible because the technology to produce such an element just wasn't there," Patin said. "But with the efficiency of the Russian cyclotron and the ability to run the experiments for long periods of time, we were able to achieve this tremendous accomplishment."
"This is quite a breakthrough for science," said Chemistry and Materials Science Associate Director Tomas Diaz de la Rubia. "We've discovered two new elements that provide insight into the makeup of the universe.
Scientists in Livermore's Seaborg Institute, named after the renowned nuclear chemist, reinvent nuclear and bionuclear science to enable out-of-the-box solutions to national problems.
This latest scientific breakthrough, however, provides significant credibility to Bob Lazar’s claims rather than discrediting his claims.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
reply to post by spacevisitor
spacevisitor:
again, what was the estimated lifetime of these few created nuclei of 115
Originally posted by buddhasystem
element 115 created in the lab lives for an incredibly short period of time, hence it's hard to confirm its existence.
The results have been accepted for publication in the Feb. 1, 2004 issue of Physical Review C.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Slabs of that metal allegedly stolen by burglars from Lazar's apartment were something else Maybe lead.
Originally posted by johnlear
You are correct. We had considered shooting protons into it but since 115 is a stable element and 116 is not, if we had succeeded in getting one proton to plug into the 116 it would have instantaneously decayed producing anti-matter which would then have reacted with matter around it in a 100% conversion of matter to energy which, for the 233 grams of the Element 115 we had might have been quite an explosion. Might have blown the experiment right off of the work bench. So we opted for the bell jar experiment.
Thanks for the post, your input and opinions are always welcome.
Mr. Lear, you obviously are not a physicist, let alone a nuclear physicist, otherwise you'd know what you said is completely incorrect. There's no way such a nuclear reaction would produce anti-matter. And even if it does produce, it wouldn't be sufficient to aniquilate all that. Not even at CERN.
Originally posted by johnlear
I menat to say if we had gotten one proton to plug into the 115 it would have made it 116 which would have instantaneously decayed producing anti-matter.
Sad though that some people still give a fairy tale, joke or outright lie like this serious consideration.
John, in your post describing this improbable experiment, you stated the distance between the alpha source and the piece of 115 was 6 to 8 inches. Now, the range of alpha particles in air is a well understood subject, and you can take a look at a curve like this one:
Long story short, there is no way that the alpha particle was able to reach anywhere near the alleged 115 from where it supposedly emitted