The Gable Film - Michigan Dogman

Murdoku,

You post a lot of exclamation marks and say stuff as though you think we know what you are saying. Well I don't think I'm the only one here who has not got a clue what you are trying to say.

I suggest if you want us to know what you are saying, you take a deep breath, calm down and gently explain to us what you are thinking and what your conclusons (if any) are about the video.

Read my sig.



Its just sad to see people examining frames of, lets say, a blurry video of a dog, for example.
They study for weeks, giving all this “detailed analysis”. I have seen this OFTEN on these pages,
like nobody checks any hoax site for vids or pics before posting. Look I, like anyone, want
to believe in something. Cryptozoology will perhaps be my chosen career field, that is why I
bat nonsense away FEROCIOULY in the hops of time being spent on more (if you can call it)
Tangible cases. I just hate to see so much energy and emphasis put towards the obvious. Well,
I guess not obvious for some.

However, I do conceit, once other “tangible” cases have been talked to death, the only
ones left are nonsense. Oh well, I guess I’ll just have to again start up my
“Leave the boards for a couple of weeks” thing. Usually when I return, theres something
interesting.

I apologize for rambling. That’s just what I do.

Cincinnati Zoo & Botanical Garden
Cleveland Metroparks Zoo
Columbus Zoological Gardens
Toledo Zoological Gardens
Akron Zoological Park

Also, in the 70's and 80's it became popular to buy rare and exotic animals on the black market for pets or hunting. This still goes on today.



I agree. It looks and moves exactly like a gorilla so......it's a gorilla.

Here is a link for info about Wolverines.
It includes current distribution of populations in North America and pictures that look NOTHING like what we see in the video.

www.earthscape.org...

reply to post by jfj123

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I was being SARCASTIC with the zoo bit *rolls eyes so hard, they fall out of skull*
look what you make me do!

I was also being sarcastic by posting Ohio zoo's
Sorry the sarcasm was a bit hidden
I agree with you regarding the obscene amount of over analysis being done here. It just amazes me that people are seeing things that aren't there but that seems to happen a lot here. You must wade through a lot of S&@t to get to the flowers

p.s-
I apologize for my hostility in the earlier post. it's just frustrating sometimes.

No problem. I COMPLETELY understand.

It's like trying to explain to a crazy person that they are crazy but since they're crazy, they don't think they're crazy
Make sense or am I just crazy?

reply to post by jfj123

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your crazy!

If there are that many zoos in michigan, especially close to where that happened, then it's obviously a gorilla^^ I wonder why no one has thought of that... there are so many americans here, someone should live in michigan.

reply to post by ZikhaN

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Actually, I do live in Michigan and live close to the Detroit Zoo.

Here's part of a news article that helps show proof that gorillas are kept at the zoo.

ummmm...pardon me but if thats a gorilla why does it appear to have "horns" or what appear to be ears?? my opinion after several watches is that it is the "dogman"...man i wish i had the funding to track it down!!

I have watched the clip about 30 times. There are no horns, ears or tail. The video is both washed out and blurry so it's almost impossible to make out fine detail such as ears, horns, tail. What you are seeing is trick of light combined with possibly dropped frames.

Please keep in mind that this video has been spliced at several places and compressed for the internet.

Have you guys watched the enhanced video on Youtube which I linked to in my last post?

Watch it in full screen mode, ignore the 2nd half just watch the first half. I defy anyone to watch that in full screen and not see a man crawling in commando style.

The guys that made the video spent countless hours bringing that film back to life. Plus the fact of laying out lots of money on doing it and getting it copyrighted.

Now, why in the world would they come out and say it's not real if it even had a chance of being real? Plus the fact that they would be laughed and jeered at. They realized that it was in fact a human coupled with some film tricks. I'm sure if there were any chance to keep it going they would have done so, at least until they recouped their money.

It's an attempted creature feature from the 70's and nothing more. I applaud their honesty in the face of potential ridicule and lost funding.

Of course maybe when they see just how many people are going to believe some fantasy over the truth, they may make their money back after all.

So is there any news?;D Or is everyone already 100% sure that it's a hoax?

The links I clicked for this thread were all dead, but I found two intereting versions of the film:

A. A freeze frame on the bite sequence, with subsequent analysis

www.youtube.com...


B. Multiple enhancements of the entire footage.

www.youtube.com...


Now a note on Film A, the presenter obviously tries too hard to credit the mystery of the film in claiming it cannot be a Gorilla due to the pattern and type of canines present in its mouth. Obviously this is a huge assumption and lacks proper analysis.

Needless to say, the footage is so compressed it's practically garbage. I wish we had the original image, frame by frame, but since we do not, let me say this most certainly resembles a Gorilla. I would say a Silverback Gorilla, but it could just as easily be a female with young. Anyone knows that a mother will not hesitate in protecting her baby, so it would be within character for a female Gorilla to not only charge the videographer, but to also attack him outright.

Now if this is a fake, that is all entirely possible, but the movements of the gorilla are very natural in nature.

I would never doubt such an animal loose in the U.S. Just a few months back a Lion escaped its enclosure in West Virginia, and has still yet to be found. It's still on the loose near the Virginia border, and a Bow Hunter that spotted it claims it's anywhere from 250-300 lbs. The owner wants it brought in safely, and no one to take a shot at it (Real lovely thinking, I know it might be a pet, but if I see an African Lion headed towards me, I'm putting it down). Another Lion (550 lb. Male) in a seperate incident in Ohio was actually out loose on a highway attacking passing cars. He escaped from his owners property (The guy owns two full grown African Lions). Fortunately the owner was able to coax the lion back into it's pen.

I'm going to put my eighteen cents down on it being a gorilla.

The fluffy hair and original sideways gait as it takes off sells it. Straight afterwards when it is bounding along it looks more dog like but not really... I vote gorilla.

Edit to add:

thinking of fluffy hair--- maybe it's a DeRidder Beast??

Deridder Roadkill



[edit on 4/2/08 by DogHead]

I lived in the country pretty much my whole lif and managed to see quite a few different animals wandering around in my back yard or in the neardby bush. And I'll admit that at one point the way the creature moves it slightly looks like a gorilla but I've seen coyotes and wolves and even dogs move sideways like that as well they do it when they are playing and hunting the way they move and the blurryness of the camera both probly come into play also the angle the camera was held at could have made it seem like it was a gorilla I definitely dont think its a gorilla more than likely a large breed of dog or wolf, for all intents and purposes the possibility of it being a strange creature none else has seen before would honestly be completely awesome but definitly not a gorilla.
Sometimes I think we all want to find crazy things thats why most people are ready to jump to the most outrageous conclusions when videos like this show up but also anything is possible we already know that.

I really don't think any type of dog would create that shape even if it was being filmed by a blurry camera.

You haven't seen the original video right? I saw it long time ago, and at the end you get to see the person who's holding the camera drop it, and then you see some kinda teeth/jaw attacking the camera. That part practically spoils the whole believableness of this video

[edit on 9-2-2008 by ZikhaN]

reply to post by JackofBlades

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I've never personally seen a Sheba Inu with shoulders like what's in the Gable Film in all of my years of breeding them but I do really, really want to believe that it is a feral or domestic dog. As far as the brown or black bear theories floating around go; I was attacked by a black bear in spring almost 10 years ago and can say from personal experience that it is no bear. Bears don't bother to skirt obstructions as bears don't consider anything to be an obstruction, even people lol. thegirl