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"Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars" - A Must Read Article For ATS

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posted on Oct, 5 2007 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by kosmicjack

Originally posted by jcavs88

Memes can be useful and mundane such as fables and stories, songs, urban legends and popular culture. They can also be dangerous when applied to disinformation or in order to illicit an emotional response as a means of control.

Absolutely tons of Memes on ATS boards! Vampires, Werewolves, Haunted Houses, Aliens, etc.




posted on Oct, 5 2007 @ 09:50 PM
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Some of those ideas sound like Tesla, if you ever read some of
his assertions of a way to explode the weapons of invading armies.

So you don't need weapons, you explode the others... guess its hand to hand combat after that.

OK, so Dupont didn't think sales would pick up due to Tesla and stole
the Tesla plans so that no one could build the powerful coil.

Well the FBI stole it and Dupont most likely breathed a lot easier.

Thank you very much.



posted on Oct, 5 2007 @ 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by 1337cshacker
How you overcome them is letting go of your materialism and the big lie (that only this world and materials in it matter). You realize nothing in this world matters or can make you truly happy, nothing but a relationship with god. Not even having a wife can bring you that sort of happiness. Doing this releases you from all media, advertising, and gov control, as you start to make your own choices.


I so agree with you, thank you for the great post


I would like to add that as we love, and feel the love of God, we also learn to love others. Through this that happiness we have been given from the relationship we have with God, expands outward to those we know. What we realized we did not need, occurs, not by our need, but from the gift of love we share.



posted on Oct, 6 2007 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by Redge777

Originally posted by 1337cshacker
How you overcome them is letting go of your materialism and the big lie (that only this world and materials in it matter). You realize nothing in this world matters or can make you truly happy, nothing but a relationship with god. Not even having a wife can bring you that sort of happiness. Doing this releases you from all media, advertising, and gov control, as you start to make your own choices.


I so agree with you, thank you for the great post


I would like to add that as we love, and feel the love of God, we also learn to love others. Through this that happiness we have been given from the relationship we have with God, expands outward to those we know. What we realized we did not need, occurs, not by our need, but from the gift of love we share.

If everyone stopped and did just as me and redge said, this world would be 300% better. It would be a bearable place to live in, and everyone would be happy. Nope, everyone needs their HD, new pc, new games, new cars, new technology, new materials, new ventures. Seriously, just sit by the fire in the woods with our ways and forget society. The only thing I consider myself to be dependent on now are my NVD's. I can kill my own food, grow my own food, I can make my own shelter, I can entertain and train myself, I can do all of this with the love and teachings of god. What else do we need? NOTHING.

Why don't I just go out in the woods and do this now, and forget internet/technology and the such? Trust me I would very much like to, I want to, but I can exist within it for now with the main teachings of gad happily, I also use this these tools to expand myself to everyone, expand and give out my word, to help others with my ideas. That is proper use of the technology, not profit, giving, teaching, helping. When the moment arrives, I will be out in the woods doing just what I say when society FAILS horribly in the years to come, living on my own with my family, doing things for them. I feel the urge to help others until then, and if others are existing in this, then I have to for now.

[edit on 6-10-2007 by 1337cshacker]



posted on Oct, 7 2007 @ 12:58 AM
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I think if we trim down the excess, we can push back the power that money control has. While self sufficiency is not a goal all can reach, it is possible not to buy into the false lie of the glamor of the rich. How many people think these celebrities we see are really happy?

Here is another article that shows how Power attacks political rivals. It is from J Edar Hoover. Although it does not lean into methods such as the OP it does show overt methods used to single out and control adversaries of the power elite.

www.namebase.org...



posted on Oct, 8 2007 @ 05:02 PM
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I agree, tangent discussion muddies the waters. If we are to seriously get a grip on this subject we need to focus a bit. A week or so ago I was very concerned in the area of this discussion. After reading the document I had to respond. The fact that we are given a napkin and a pencil to respond should not diminish the importance of the issue. I was compelled to write more than allowed. So, I created a blog site to accommodate it.

If anyone is interested in the read, it outlines some of the reasons we are in this mess and offerers some insight with some examples.

If so motivated to read it, please respond to this post, and not on my blogsite.

Thanks all, Important discussion.


zeroghost-musingsfromamultiverse.blogspot.com...

ZG



posted on Oct, 8 2007 @ 06:28 PM
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I am enjoying your article.
The comment on fear hit home for me, that was a method of control used on me during a battle long ago. Notice that the heroine in V for Vendetta is, through trials of fire, freed from all fear. You mention fear from death, this was my last fear I let go. That does not mean I want death, I love life, wow do I love living. Living knowing my love and passions for what is right in my heart, is my guide, as given by my Lord Jesus Christ. Not fear as given by the darkness.

I like the distinction from spirituality and religion you gave. I will add my opinion, although it may expand above yours. The things religion uses to control people are not the same as the love of Christ. Some religion threatens Hell, when in truth God does not condemn us to hell he saves us from the hell we created though are own action, and wants to save us all. I, as you can see, like the spiritual, yet disagree with so much of the control used through the ages through Religion.

On your education thoughts, I agree thinking, critical thought, and feeling, is what I agree should be taught

[edit on 8-10-2007 by Redge777]



posted on Oct, 8 2007 @ 07:13 PM
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this article gives a lot of credence to jordan maxwells study on the occult world of commerce as well, and gives more insight into the dominance of commercial law over common law.

"the banks of a river control the flow of the current-sea".

"when you break the law (the circuit), you get charged." very very interesting language.

it's great to see people understanding the real nuts and bolts of control in our society, and not being overly distracted with scaler weaponry, alien cabals, and secret societies.

it's amazing to see the shockwaves that go through society when the price of petrol at the bouser spikes? all the news services and current affairs shows go into overdrive, everyone's talking about it in daily conversation, the consumer "watchdogs" get narky, the governments launch reviews of corporate practise...

it's amazing, and this is just like putting an electrode into someone's brain to see how stimulating different parts effects different behaviours and perceptions.



posted on Oct, 8 2007 @ 07:41 PM
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Thanks to everyone for not letting this thread fade away. I think it is such an important topic. The more people that are educated about this the better. I have just logged on so I will get to ZeroGhost's blog directly. It is good to know that there are ATS members who are concerned about meaningful issues.



posted on Oct, 8 2007 @ 09:40 PM
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Great thread.

I found a link to None Dare Call It Conspiracy, the book that Hartford Van Dyke said had inspired him to release his.


The Quiet War was quietly declared by the International Elite at a meeting held in 1954.

SWFQW




The strange name of this group is taken from the site of the first meeting in May, 1954-the Hotel de Bilderberg-in Oostebeek Holland.

NDCIC



Is that the connotation?
The material presented in SWFQW certainly joins some dots concerning recent world events by the Shock Doctrine; in that there are forces at work behind the scenes and there is definitely an agenda afoot.

The internet has assisted in helping to focus the picture of the possibilities from the many fragments of truth that are scattered in our perceived reality.


Conspiracies can operate only in the dark. They cannot stand the truthful light of day.

SWFQW


As long as we remain free to communicate, nothing can stop the (real eye) sation of our shared predicament. However, recent political events have empowered our collective governments to act accordingly should any problems arise. So no asking any more awkward questions, you are dishonoring the dead.

A closing thought is associated with the machine as referred to in Fast Food Nation; the one where cattle, man and money all serve to maximize profit.

Us human beings have become a part of that machine, which in turn is being manipulated by dark and hidden agendas for more output.

We're in the wringer.



The watchdogs tend to go to sleep with a Republican in office.

NDCIC


EDIT: I'm still reading the book, had to post that excerpt


Woof Woof anyone?

Where's Smedley Darlington Butler when you need him?


Butler came forward in 1934 and informed Congress that a group of wealthy industrialists had plotted a military coup to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt.


Maybe what they didn't get by hook, they got by crook, eh?

[edit on 8/10/07 by shanti23]



posted on Oct, 8 2007 @ 10:30 PM
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Thanks for the post and the "connect the dots".

Tons of great new links and comments for people to read who are revisiting this thread.

I need time to review and reflect before posting too much more. I have also posted another thread recently.

Again, based on a controversial and/or de-bunked document, but as I stated in the OP, does that make it necessarily untrue? It sure seems like reality.

Report From Iron Mountain - Fact Disguised as Fiction?
www.abovetopsecret.com...'



posted on Oct, 8 2007 @ 11:34 PM
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This is the first time I've seen this thread but it definitely has my attention now. It reinforces my long-time belief that our society is being controlled in this manner. However, the one thing that really makes me uneasy, is wondering who is monitoring our conversations here and what special "list" will we be placed on (electronically) for discovering this information. Being a computer programmer makes me think about these things.



posted on Oct, 9 2007 @ 05:11 AM
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I am just starting the book I enjoyed this quote from it


Then we ask our interviewee: "Since you say you are not a socialist but you feel the country is being socialized, why don't you do something about it?" His response will rim: "I'm only one person. Besides it's inevitable. You can't fight city hall, heh, heh, heh."

Don't you know that the boys down at city hall are doing everything they can to convince you of that? How effectively can you oppose anything if you feel your opposition is futile? Giving your opponent the idea that defending himself is futile is as old as warfare itself. In about 500 B. C. the Chinese war lord-philosopher Sun Tsu stated, "Supreme excellence in warfare lies in the destruction of your enemy's will to resist in advance of perceptible hostilities." We call it "psy war" or psychological warfare today.


I also wanted to say, communism or capitalism and equally bad in extremes. They also allow people to fight for a choice of one of two evils. People rail against communism as their industrialist rob them blind. Communist claim the social order of the people, as communist leaders condense and control society, against the will of the people.

The argument is kept in the mind of the people, while the criminals of both go unseen. There are many merits to communism, there are many merits to capitalism, it is who chooses which elements of both are used, and not understanding the motive of their choices that causes our problems.

Call someone a communist if he ask for government oversight of monopolistic businesses. Call someone a protector of the elite if he cuts spending for social programs and cuts taxes. Both are power helping those in power. The labels are used to keep the people watching the tennis match, look far left, look far right. Don't see whats right in front of you.

On a side note, what is the duality of the pyramid with a smile not an eye? It can be turned inside out, I find it interesting. Is it a smile to hide the eye. Is it replacing the eye with the smile? Is it refuting the evil eye, with the benign smile?



posted on Oct, 9 2007 @ 05:29 AM
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Originally posted by annestacey
Being a computer programmer makes me think about these things.

(for) Prolog (and) Smalltalk Ada' Lisp Standard Pearl(s) DBase (my) Basic Scheme (of) High Level Assembly (to) Tickle (and) Inform



However, the one thing that really makes me uneasy, is wondering who is monitoring our conversations here and what special "list" will we be placed on (electronically) for discovering this information.


If government is benign with enough good people from top to bottom, then posting thoughts give you nothing to fear. If simply posting thoughts is something someone should worry about, then that alone is reason to post.

We each have our own time to decide to speak, but one thing is true, if things are getting worse, it is best to speak now then later. And history has shown when nobody speaks things do get worse. Eventually most will be in a place where they will decide to speak anyway, so why not now. I think I should not let their only weapon, fear, change what I believe, or who I am.


[edit on 9-10-2007 by Redge777]



posted on Oct, 9 2007 @ 03:10 PM
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That reminds me of Martial Law 9/11: Rise of the Police State where Alex Jones is asking a group of communists whether or not they realize they are buying into the brainwash of opposing ideologies instead of the reality that they are just another manifestation of world enslavement. They dutifully reply with confused aggression, even associating Alex with the Fox News Network
(around the 20:55 mark)



Is it a smile to hide the eye. Is it replacing the eye with the smile? Is it refuting the evil eye, with the benign smile?


I found the picture on a blog which advocated the idea of using their own symbols against them. Instead of the cold, sterile all-seeing-eye, we have the marshmallow mushiness of the acid smilie and the 'happy conspiracy' meme; turning their methodology of pollution against them in a positive way.

For example IntelCenter have a very interesting symbol for their efforts, a triskelion with the number of the beast inside. Now that is one dark image to use for our safely and freedom. I don't think even a smilie face can turn that one from the dark side...

“Curiouser and curiouser!”



posted on Oct, 10 2007 @ 12:34 AM
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That is a real and logical concern. I think though in numbers we can speak truth and look reasonably harmless. Micromanaging a state of consciousness is less than folly. I think truth has a back-pressure that can be optimized by a compassionate motivation.

You can't be sure of anything, but likely most folks are insignificant. They've got too much to do without pouncing on hundreds of thousands of people who finally can figure it out. Pretty soon it will be like" DUH, the games rigged."

ZG



posted on Oct, 10 2007 @ 12:37 AM
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Please expand!


If God has a trillion eyes, we each got two of them.

ZG



posted on Oct, 10 2007 @ 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by Redge777
reply to post by shanti23
 

I also wanted to say, communism or capitalism and equally bad in extremes. They also allow people to fight for a choice of one of two evils. People rail against communism as their industrialist rob them blind. Communist claim the social order of the people, as communist leaders condense and control society, against the will of the people.


Call someone a communist if he ask for government oversight of monopolistic businesses. Call someone a protector of the elite if he cuts spending for social programs and cuts taxes. Both are power helping those in power. The labels are used to keep the people watching the tennis match, look far left, look far right. Don't see whats right in front of you.

On a side note, what is the duality of the pyramid with a smile not an eye? It can be turned inside out, I find it interesting. Is it a smile to hide the eye. Is it replacing the eye with the smile? Is it refuting the evil eye, with the benign smile?


Polarity is what powers existence. No Yin, no Yang. If you know this you can control things by keeping the balance constantly off and fueling or dousing fires in the right directions. Even the awareness of billions. The tennis ball rarely falls out of court, and they keep it going with a power return. They (controllers) have resources we can only hope for.

The controllers oddly enough might to a large part be us too. We are the machine, the gears. Enough power and grease to do a 40 hour week and we don't complain. Soon that will change as our middle class financial feet tear through the rice paper economy. Questions will fly against official denials. Anger from fear will spark fires in issues everywhere. Or, change in us. We have to stop playing their game. Forfeit and walk off court. Your game just ain't sporting enough for us!

Oh and the smile on the Pyramid? Yea, but you realize that the smile is a closed eye?


ZG



posted on Oct, 10 2007 @ 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by shanti23
I found the picture on a blog which advocated the idea of using their own symbols against them. Instead of the cold, sterile all-seeing-eye, we have the marshmallow mushiness of the acid smilie and the 'happy conspiracy' meme; turning their methodology of pollution against them in a positive way.

I like the positive aproach with the smile.

The image of that Intelcenter is unbelievable. I was startled to see such an obvious use of symbolism most Christians attach to the occult.

[edit on 10-10-2007 by Redge777]



posted on Oct, 11 2007 @ 01:01 AM
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I read "Behold A Pale Horse" about 2 1/2 yrs. ago. I'm not even sure where I got it. It was chalked full of conspiracy stuff and if I remember right, this little dissertation was in it. This "manual" does seem to be a little out of tune with what a formal document from some gov't. or NGO type of document should look and red like. The wording in some of the sections is too informal and condescending in it's nature.

That being said, I would conjecture to say that there is a grain of truth in it. I'm curious about the authenticity of the economic formulas that are presented. First, Are they real formulas or some fanciful creation? I'm willing to try and contact an old economics instructor I had a couple of years ago and run them buy him to find out.

Secondly, This also has a touch of Isaac Asimov to it. Does anybody remember the "Foundation and Foundation and Empire" books? This paper or manual reminds me of the "Socio-economic theory and mathematics that was employed in the main premise of these books. Those stories always sent chills up my spine because they basically described an entire galaxy ruled and manipulated by the use of advanced socio-mathematic principles and theories.

It maybe that we are actually living and dieing inside the global version of this kind of behavior modeling mathematics. It's undeniable that bar-coding is used for tracking not only sales , but consumer buying habits. I would not be shocked to find out that we are being routinely manipulated in this fashion.

Maybe it's time for me to pull the economic plug and get completely debt-free and quietly disappear from the radar and go "cash only" while it's still an option.



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