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reply posted on 28-9-2007 @ 10:13 PM by NGC2736
reply to post by SEEWHATUDO



This two class system has been known by the poor for a very long time. The poor get less health care, less meaningful education, less housing, less everything. We know we are enslaved.

There is no solution to this short of completely overhauling the system. It cannot be corrected a little at a time.Knowing that these things are being done does not equate to stopping them.

And sadly, most people will not accept that it is happening no matter how you rub their nose in the facts. It is insidious because if they admit it, then they feel guilt and helplessness, and this is avoided at all costs.

It is our duty to spread the word on this, even if most people will not listen. I suggest that a link to this could be put in every hometown paper in the classified section. The mystery might be enough to get people to look at it, and the cost would be within the personal budget range. A sort of homegrown viral campaign. It's about all we have.

And yes, emails might work some, though a lot of people seem to ignore emails that link to some site.

We need to try it all, and hope something works before it's too late for anything to work.

OP, this is a great thread, and I have already flagged it.



reply posted on 28-9-2007 @ 10:30 PM by Kaliayev
William Cooper...now there's a name I haven't heard in a while. I remember reading parts of this in Behold a Pale Horse a few years ago.

However, I have to register some caution over the predictive abilities of economists. Assuming they can control all the factors, economists could create a predictable system and learn how to exert control over it.

But as far as I know, that has never happened. Economists are awful when it comes to their "performance indicators" and future predictions. Usually because they assume stable trends, when more often than not, something chaotic/unpredictable throws everything off course.

This doesn't mean they aren't striving to an international situation where this could be, in theory, tested. You'd have to integrate most of the world into one large financial market, eliminating or co-opting those states who try to stay outside the system (Iraq and China, for example) to lay the preconditions for trying this because, quite frankly, an individual state is not a self-reliant economic unit and hasn't been for some time.

Of course, that's futile, because something else will throw their theories off (insider trading, everyone defaulting on their loans at once, a natural disaster), but they don't believe that. Against all the evidence, economists and their ilk believe their theories represent reality. And people who think that worry me, especially when they have the ears of political lobbies and, sometimes, national leaders.

Edit: its so late over here its early, which is why this post is so bad and meandering. Will come back and fix tomorrow.

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reply posted on 29-9-2007 @ 05:21 AM by Copernicus
Originally posted by Long Lance
everyone needs to understand that winning (surviving) is not a matter of points in a tournament, it's about getting things done. if you're unable to reach anyone, find other ways, go it alone if necessary, but don't ever believe that you got stuck. seek alternatives if known approaches are clearly failing.


Its too dangerous to try and change things alone. You will just get ridiculed and laughed at. What you need is 10000 people standing outside the White House, something that gets attention all over the world.

These people need to protest against the current regime and deliver a clear message, with evidence backing up their claims, with addresses to web sites with more information. We wont change anything sitting around on this site.

What you need to do is to arrange a meeting here on ATS, set a date and go to Washington. Camp outside the White House for 7 days. Deliver the message clearly, but you need to be tons of people. Thats very important. Dont resist arrests, but be many enough to make it impossible for them to remove everybody. Talk to people walking by, tell them what is going on. Its not that difficult you know. Dont have a clear leader, everybody must be capable of leading, because what happens when the leader gets arrested otherwise? Once you are let go from being arrested, go back to the demonstration.

Lets get started organizing something like that. Im not a US citizen, but I can help in other ways, like setting up web sites or getting attention from the news media.

Go to universities, tell them about the demonstration and ask them to take part. There is a growing feeling of wanting to change the world, and the students probably feel it more than anyone.



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reply posted on 29-9-2007 @ 06:07 AM by Long Lance
reply to post by Copernicus



you believe that a couple of thousand people would make a difference, but i fail to see the 'operating mechanism' behind this approach. During the height of Dutroux abduction ring /sex slave trade case in Belgium, 300.000 people (official numbers) took to the streets and achieved nothing.

www.crimelibrary.com...

how would getting even a millon people on the boat help, exactly? as long as you're doing demonstrations, having the **** kicked out of you from time to time along with some DEW (µwave) tested on you, they will rightfully laugh at you. even worse, you'd be constantly exposing yourself for no gain.

i'm not pretending to know HOW exactly it should be done, it's a matter of individual choice, after all, but seeking public attention, does neither afford a great deal of influence nor does it seem to provide a good chance to succeed. try getting past the media.

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reply posted on 29-9-2007 @ 06:25 AM by Copernicus
reply to post by Long Lance



I dont agree. You realize that the majority of people still have no clue what is being done to America, right? They have no idea, because its not in the mass media.

What a large demonstration would do is get attention. That attention would help spread the message. Its also the only peaceful means of changing things people have at their disposal. Sitting around here chatting about it is not going to change one single thing. So what is the message people need to get out?

That the Project for the New American Century is very real and not a conspiracy theory. Then you have to make people understand why its bad.

Project for the New American Century video

What you are seeing in the American society today is not a accident. This thread is about the very paper that so obviously are the mechanisms behind what is happening. This is a very intentional strategy to keep people not challenging authority or believe in their own ability to change things. You are in short, being dumbed down, and entertained so you will be happy and not care or understand what the government does.

If weapons are used against a friendly demonstration, isnt that the very proof you need that you are now living in a society where you have no power to try and influence public opinion unless you own a TV station? Do you want to live in a society where you can only accept what happens and not influence it in any way?

Maybe you enjoy living in a society where you feel threatened by your government? Like you say, they would harm you for having a demonstration. How #ed up is that?



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reply posted on 29-9-2007 @ 07:06 AM by Copernicus
Originally posted by Dallas
Originally posted by kosmicjack
Sigh... The ATS forum board: Tom Cruise, demons, skinwalkers, aliens...it would all be hilarious if it wasn't so very sadly proving the point of this manual - the one that few ATS members have bothered to educate themselves about much less participate in any meaningful discussion about the consequences.


Not often do I get worked up over a post, but I must admit I believe from what's written, your not happy here. Or mayhap's your not happy with the quality, subject matters or ATS people not reading or not commenting on threads you feel qualify. Would you mind explaining the above or should it be understood for what it is? I really enjoyed reading the posts above until I got to this one.

Thanks,
Dallas


He is just frustrated by the complete apathy in people when it comes to trying to change the society. A lot of people here read about how the society gets turned to crap, but very few have the courage to take the kick to the teeth it means to change something.

Nobody feels like they can make a difference, but there are 250 million americans out there. If only 1% want to change things, you have 2.5 million people having demonstrations that brings information to the other 99% about what is going on.

I guess what it comes down to is, are you a nation of complete cowards? I dont think so. I see a lot of courage in Americans, but its being used in the wrong ways. You need to bring attention to these matters, not sit around typing posts on a forum when you are already convinced.

You know, once the Real ID is out, there is only a question of time before its going to be used as a identifier on the internet as well. And by then, it will be impossible to speak anonymously about these things. When that happens, you can bet you will be seen as a threat if you successfully spread the word about what happens.


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reply posted on 29-9-2007 @ 09:54 AM by Long Lance
Originally posted by Copernicus

I dont agree. You realize that the majority of people still have no clue what is being done to America, right? They have no idea, because its not in the mass media.


no matter how obvious the lies are, a certain amount of people will always toe to the 'party line' for reasons we can only guess. it's been this way like forever, take JF. Kennedy,
Pearl Harbor or lower profile incidents like the Gulf of Tonking nonsense. in JFK's case, eyewitnesses and even people who watched live TV, heck, anyone remotely acquainted with the subject simply has to understand there was a cover-up, the entire episode strains credulity, yet you will not gain public support, you'll be ignored, branded delusional if anything.

i presume you've watched the video of the guy asking the wrong questions being tazered, people initially seemed to cheer the police, although i don't know how many. the reasons are again anyone's guess.


in short, you have to remember that you can't convince someone who already knows but does not admit.



reply posted on 29-9-2007 @ 01:07 PM by kosmicjack
reply to post by Dallas




Wow. Just Wow. I find your post to be bizarre. Anyone familiar with my postings on ATS will know that I don't usually get into personal snarkiness or baiting but... I find it hard to believe that you read even a portion of the original post and link or any of the replies that followed. If you did, and yet you find my post to be more disturbing, I really don't know how to respond to your reasoning, or what little you have.

The post you are so ill about was merely a personal commentary on how easily distracted people can be. A point which is relative to the "manual" posted originally in this thread. I don't think that my pointing out the lack of participation in this thread, compared to that in the entertaining and yet unproven topics on the board at the time, was unreasonable at all. Especially in a thread about mind control or manipulation. Do I read some of those posts? Yes. For information and entertainment. But (GASP!) there are some very important and impactful threads on ATS that aren't as spectacular or tabloid-ish and therefore get little attention. Sorry, that is the truth, plain and simple. It should not cause offense to you.

This thread is too important to be sidetracked by personal issues. I will no longer be responding to questions such as yours - silly.


reply posted on 29-9-2007 @ 07:10 PM by kosmicjack
Below is a review of "Behold A Pale Horse" which was written by William Cooper, who is also linked to Silent Weopons For Quiet Wars. He used SWFQW as a preface in his book I believe. His autobiographical essay is linked below. I think both the book and the essay just add to the mystery of the origins of SWFQW. Cooper is definitely a character to say the least. The autobiographical essay is all over the board - Military, UFO's and all. I feel very dubious about Cooper but SWFQW feels very true as we can plainly see evidence of it everyday. Is it true or counter-intelligence disinfo? The more I read the more I need a drink or an aspirin!

Book Review:

Behold a Pale Horse is definitely not a book to curl up on the couch with on a Sunday afternoon. The topics William Cooper discusses will very likely keep you reading late into the night. There are two types of people in the world: those who want to know who exactly is controlling whom, and those who are more comfortable taking things at face value. I will say up front that I didn't believe everything I read in this book, such as some of the references about UFOs. What really disturbed me was the theory of the true intent of the government. Cooper's account of what the government is capable of in times of heightened alert is extremely relevant now. It is important to keep in mind that this book was published before the attack on the World Trade Center because the US is finding itself in exactly the position Cooper predicted. Whether or not you think you might agree with the information in this book, I recommend any book written by someone who was killed for the purpose of silencing him or her. Be an informed citizen and know what your government is capable of.


Autobiographical Essay:
www.v-j-enterprises.com...

Excerpt:
"We have been taught lies. Reality is not at all what we perceive it to be. We cannot survive any longer by hanging onto the falsehoods of the past. Reality must be discerned at all costs if we are to be a part of the future. Truth must prevail in all instances, no matter who it hurts or helps, if we are to continue to live upon this earth. At this point, what we want may no longer matter. It is what we must do to ensure our survival that counts. The old way is in the certain process of destruction and a New World Order is beating down the door...



reply posted on 30-9-2007 @ 04:49 AM by Copernicus
reply to post by kosmicjack



You can only do so much to bring attention to it. If people dont show an interest in discussing it, its up to them. I guess they dont know what to say really. Or maybe they realized that what happens right now is not a conspiracy theory but very much a planned action, and it scares them.

Personally im grateful you found this and its in my bookmarks for the future.



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