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Bush I An Insider On UFO's

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posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 06:16 PM
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I was watching a History Channel program a couple of weeks ago on UFO's. It reported that one time, a journalist asked Bush the elder about what he knew about UFO's. His response? "You don't know the half of it." It makes you wonder...




posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 07:26 PM
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It is strange with all of those blacked-out military documents about official sightings. Hey, even the National Fireman's Handbook (or something like that) has/had instructions on how to take care of UFO crashes! That was on the History Channel as well.


LAX

posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 07:37 PM
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i wana become president just so i can go to Area 51 and dulce =D



posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 07:39 PM
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^ That'd be nice if you could be honorary president for a day, just so you could tour Area 51 and such. You'd probably end up dead a day after, if you know what I mean.



posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by LAX
i wana become president just so i can go to Area 51 and dulce =D


That's scary - Imagine what Dubya would do in Area 51. Apart from painting 'Don't screw with Texas' on a UFO, the thought of him pissing around with some alien technology is enough to make me hide under the bed !



posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 09:30 PM
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I thought the president didn't have clearance for 51?

Seriously, I remember seeing a show that said that.
Anyone see that?



posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 09:34 PM
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As far as I can remember it was when he was director of the CIA. I just read something about it the other day.

will find and post
Heres one-->Presidentialufo.com

One during Carter Administration-->Carter
[Edited on 22-1-2004 by TrickmastertricK]

[Edited on 22-1-2004 by TrickmastertricK]



posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 10:10 PM
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I think Bush does as he is CIA...



posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 10:16 PM
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Geogre Bush Sen had information to UFO's.
Not all presidents have access to this information, unless the the president is involved with the shadow government.

Geogre Bush JR most likely has access to UFOs.



posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by DClark
I thought the president didn't have clearance for 51?

Seriously, I remember seeing a show that said that.
Anyone see that?


I do remember hearing that at some point as well. To the best of my knowledge, the president does not have the proper clearance to enter Area 51 or know what 'really' goes on there.



posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 11:02 PM
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As head of the military, the president would know about alien threats to the US. Unfortunately the president does not know all the details.

It is too bad that the truth is being hidden from the average citizen.



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 02:54 AM
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The CIA has recently admitted (as in within last 5 years) that a number of well known UFO cases were in fact tests or flights of its spy planes, U-2 and SR-71.

At the time (and surely what Bush I is referring to) the
government did not admit to any planes flying when people asked.

The CIA still operates U-2s.



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 09:27 AM
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mbkennel;
I could see some of the UFO's being mistaken for the U2 and SR-71, but thoes planes are some of the LEAST maneuverable planes that we still use, and if you have seen any of the UFO footage or heard how they fly, that dosen't make any sense. Also, when Bush was asked that question, we already admited to having the U2, and I think the SR-71 was allready decomissioned. Now if it was some other type of hyper speed and maneuverability type aircraft, I would be more inclined to buy into that excuse.

Bush Sr. was definatlly an insider as he was not only IN the CIA, but he was the DIRECTOR, but if you were Sr. would you tell your drug abusing, idiot of a son details about the most highly kept secret in the world?

I don't know if Bush Jr. knows ANYTHING AT ALL, much less anything about the UFOs. Then again, maby I am wrong.



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 02:07 PM
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I won't say HOW I know, but I DO know that some presidents have had access to SOME elements of the paranormal.....UFOs included.
I am an abductee. Not all of those aerial objects are ours! I have seen them flying, ESCORTED by UFOs, though.



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by kaoszero

Originally posted by DClark
I thought the president didn't have clearance for 51?

Seriously, I remember seeing a show that said that.
Anyone see that?


I do remember hearing that at some point as well. To the best of my knowledge, the president does not have the proper clearance to enter Area 51 or know what 'really' goes on there.



The only time I rember hearing that is in the movie Independance Day. He did not know about because of plausible deniablity. I wager most presidents know about area 51,and more or less what goes on there.



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 03:12 PM
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Members:

One aspect of this thread is "Is the U.S. President cleared to access UFO (or Any Other) information ?"

As strange as it may seem, the correct answer to this question is "No, not always." The reason is that (as discussed previously) the Government REQUIRES that anyone seeking highly classified information must not only possess the clearamce level (Confidential; Secret,
Secret-Codeword, Top Secret, Top Secret-Codeword or
Top-Secret Codewrd-Eyes Only; But the NEED to access the information. Often the President has the "clearance" but not the NEED.

Example: In 1961 while I was stationed in Northern Honchu Island, Japan with the USAFSS (A Military Adjunct
of NSA) I guarded a NSA Site as a SP (then called AP).
Early on a Saturday morning I was interupted by my #2 SP that a Staff Car with two motorcycle escorts was pulling into our parking lot. Never having seen a Staff Car with mororcycle escorts I stepped outside just as the Staff Car parked; as is customary for Field Grade and above Officers, there was a license plate showing the rank of the Officer, this licence plate displayed Four Stars. It took a few moments for me to realize that this was a full general; I then thought "who is he, and why is this general here ?"
When the General exited the rear of the staff car I was able to recognize him as Emment R. O'Donnal, some times known as "Rosie O'Donnal", CIC of U.S. Forces, Pacific. His exec. was a full colonel himself and very much into his job of assisting the General. I explained to the General & his exec. that we Did Not have a security badge for the General (due to there not being a perceived NEED) but that I had already contacted my commander (Colonel James Barry) who was enroute to our compound to grant the General what is known as "personal recognition". As it states, this must be given personally, even though the exec. kept pressing for me to let the General enter the compound due to some "pressing matters" I resisted.
My commander arrived shortly and it wasn't long until the General was given a badge and entered the building. The exec. however was still upset with me and was discussing the matter with my commander, I felt that I was at best get my butt chewed, or at worse lose a stripe.
Luckily General O'Donnel was passing the two Colonels as my refusal to comply with the exec.'s insistance that since I KNEW the General to be General O'Donnel, I should have granted access early-on; General O'Donnel spoke up and said to his exec." that I had handled it exactly right", that he (General O'Donnel) while having a Top Secret-Codeword clearance he Did Not have a NEED for access to this compound. The exec. was also told to "let it lie". Which is exactly what he did.
Hope this Post is not too long or too boring, but it will show that sometimes Rank, even High Rank just won't get the job done.

USAFSS-SP



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 03:22 PM
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Bush knows because he used to be the Director of the CIA, not because he was President. Likewise Ronnie knew because Bush told him.

However, not even all of the directors know, and especially presidents. Bush simply was involved with them before he became director.

One of Jimmy Carters pledges was to blow the whole UFO conspiracy wide open... He was given just enough info to be apparent that he needed to keep his mouth shut about it.....



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
One of Jimmy Carters pledges was to blow the whole UFO conspiracy wide open... He was given just enough info to be apparent that he needed to keep his mouth shut about it.....
I had always read that Bush sent him back a letter not to seek further inquiry into the subject of UFOs, so he dropped it as a result of that.

However, I do think most Presidents are given enough information on UFOs to know that something is up, including Carter. The Director of Central Intelligence does report to the Commander in Chief, so I'm sure that they at least get UFO reports. I don't know if Carter got any more than UFO reports while working as the Prez, but I think he knows more than he lets on.

From what I've read, Clinton really wanted to find out about UFOs, but he too was denied much access. Though when the March 13 1997 Phoenix Lights incident happened, he had to be whisked around by the Secret Service to hide in case it was going to be an attack or something. So I imagine he at least knew partially what was going on.

[Edited on 23-1-2004 by heelstone]



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 03:37 PM
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I can just see a SNL skit on this.

Bush Jr (college years): Dude, that is so cool. Can I take it for a spin? Come on, can I!?!



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by Jonna
Bush Jr (college years): Dude, that is so cool. Can I take it for a spin? Come on, can I!?!


News: There was shock today as a strange metallic craft crashed into a building in Las Vegas today. People were then even more shocked when a stoned George Bush Jr came staggering out claiming how "rad" his ride was we now go to Kate who is at the scene....



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