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Saddam Hussein: We Had Him All the Time

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posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 12:23 PM
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The government and media have done a pretty good job over the years at cloaking our true relationship with Saddam Hussein. With the advent of the internet, though, it is becoming more and more impossible for them to bury the truth. I came across this thing awhile ago and thought it was worth sharing. It's the full story. The true, unvarnished truth. Anyone who disagrees should do some research. If they do, they'll see what I mean.

www.ericblumrich.com...




posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 12:30 PM
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I just watched the video and I have to admit I am astonished by what it reveals. But I am not really suprised by the "antics" that this country uses.

If everything in that video is in fact true, Saddam was just a yes man to the US.



posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 12:44 PM
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Pretty much. Until we hoodwinked him into invading Kuwait. It was time to get those bases built in Saudi. No more pussy-footin' around.



posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 12:54 PM
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I did not notice any major descrepancies in the film seems to be pretty much the truth. Great Link!!!



posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by BlackJackal
I did not notice any major descrepancies in the film seems to be pretty much the truth. Great Link!!!


Thank ya.


tr

posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 01:05 PM
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I liked the unauthorized biography of Rush Limbaugh. If the rest of the material is as factual as that one, this is pure research material.



posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 01:17 PM
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I'm still alittle amiss as to how "we have no opinion, one way or the other....(ad-lib)" constitutes a "green light"....hmmm.


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seekerof



posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by Seekerof
I'm still alittle amiss as to how "we have no opinion, one way or the other....(ad-lib)" constitutes a "green light"....hmmm.


regards
seekerof


Saddam contacted Ambassador April Glaspie to get the administration's position. She relayed the message, we have no opinion. He then went back to the State Department a second time to make sure he was understanding correctly. After Glaspie had confirmed it again, he went beyond her, seeking word from a man. (He did not trust her. Big surprise.:@@
Once he got the affirmative from his male contact, he proceeded to invade. He was totally hoodwinked into invading. (Had we verbally opposed such a move, he wouldn't have done it.)

[Edited on 19-09-2003 by EastCoastKid]


tr

posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 01:29 PM
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I guess we are in a state of perpetual war. ALLS FAIR in love and war? As I soak up the real story of world history I realize that we are in a constant state of war, and I could almost rationalize all this. American safety. National security.
Yet, it's not really about National security at all. If it were, we would have been rationing oil and gas for all these years. But that's not what I see. Bush is pushing everyone to buy a bigger, more gas guzzling vehicle. Gas Mileage could be increased more. The weight of automobiles could be reduced but industry says safety would be reduced.
It seems the republicans and big business want government to stay out of regulating unless non- regulation would be good for everyone but cuts into the profits of the big guys.
Henry Ford was going to make autobodies out of Hemp. This would not pollute the environment. Autobodies could be as strong as steel, but much lighter. Fuel efficiency would surge. As "modern" as our technology is, it is difficult to imagine we could not do now what was possible in in 1937.



posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 01:46 PM
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www.abovetopsecret.com...

But on thread:

All US administrations are complicit, either by a lack of update from their spook organizations or through active manipulation.
The difference with this one is that they are posturing & moving like they know "the end date", so to hell with the minor tinkering in the background....there's money to be made!



posted on Jan, 22 2004 @ 08:35 PM
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Loved the movie, but it looked from anti-U.S. rather than neutral view.

I doubt if the facts involving Kuwait can be trusted.



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by surfup
Loved the movie, but it looked from anti-U.S. rather than neutral view.

I doubt if the facts involving Kuwait can be trusted.


It's true. If you don't believe it, check it out for yourself.



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 05:05 PM
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I'm not sure I believe this completely. I can't seem to find anything except conspiracy sources that have the Saddam-Glaspie meeting documented in support of the "no opinion" version. If this is indeed true, I'd love to see it from a credible source. Got one? I don't doubt it, but that doesn't mean I'm convinced.



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 05:16 PM
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We had him all the time? I doubt this, despite the fact he was a friend of the US in the past I see no logical reason or evidence to support this.

For example the war could have been shortened and less lives lost and less expense with higher public opinion if Saddam was caught sooner in my opinion. Certainly a more desireable outcome for the US forces but it could not be done. Saddam was on the run.

What surprises me most is that he did not leave but it does make sense when you are the world's most wanted man and most talked about. It would be impossible for him to hide for long anywhere else.



posted on Jan, 24 2004 @ 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by Satyr
I'm not sure I believe this completely. I can't seem to find anything except conspiracy sources that have the Saddam-Glaspie meeting documented in support of the "no opinion" version. If this is indeed true, I'd love to see it from a credible source. Got one? I don't doubt it, but that doesn't mean I'm convinced.


Here ya go.

My wife sees Iraqi victims of torture every day where she works, at the Medical Foundation for the Care of Victims of Torture; we wanted to tell Bridget Prentice that Iraq is in desperate need of regime change and the establishment of a democratic order. The Iraqi people need it much more than Bush and Blair could ever understand. But democracy for Iraq will not be achieved by bombing and invading the country. It cannot be trusted to George Bush. The US will not accept a democratic verdict which is not to its liking in a strategically important country, possessing the world's second largest oil reserves. They strangled just such a verdict in Congo in the 1960s and in Chile in the 1970s, and they are working hard to reverse it in Venezuela today.

In Iraq, the US record speaks for itself: it backed Saddam's party, the Ba'ath, to capture power in 1963, murdering thousands of socialists, communists and democrats of all shades; it backed the Ba'ath party in 1968 when Saddam was installed as vice-president; it helped him and the Shah of Iran in 1975 to crush the Kurdish nationalist movement; it increased its support for Saddam in 1979, the year he elevated himself to president, helping him launch his war of aggression against Iran in 1980; it backed him throughout the horrific eight years of war (1980 to 1988), in which a million Iranians and Iraqis were slaughtered, in the full knowledge that he was using chemical weapons and gassing Kurds and Marsh Arabs; it encouraged him in 1990 to invade Kuwait when the Arabic-speaking US ambassador in Baghdad, April Glaspie, told him on July 25 1990 that the US had "no opinion on Arab-Arab conflicts" when she knew that Saddam's forces were only one week away from invading; it backed him in 1991 when Bush suddenly stopped the war, exactly 24 hours after the start of the great March uprising that engulfed the south and Iraqi Kurdistan (US aircraft were flying over the scenes of mass killing as Iraqi helicopter gunships were aiding Saddam's forces crush the uprising); and it backed him as the "lesser evil" from March 1991 to September 11 2001 under the umbrella of murderous sanctions and the policy of "containment".

www.guardian.co.uk...

There are other mainstream sources. Run a google search.



posted on Jan, 26 2004 @ 10:18 PM
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In reply to a post in the previous thread


Are you saying that the powers that be, those not seen, are still not there?


I don't believe that there any unseen PTB. The government is the government, if there were some people behind the scenes, they've been taking their sweet damn time taking control of the world.



[Edited on 26-1-2004 by Esoterica]



posted on Jan, 26 2004 @ 10:25 PM
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BTW, The information in that film has been publicly known for years. I was reading through an old TIME magazine last year for a research project speaking of good ole SoDamn Insane taking power, and what a good thing it was.

Did you hear there might be missiles in Cuba?



posted on Jan, 27 2004 @ 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Pretty much. Until we hoodwinked him into invading Kuwait. It was time to get those bases built in Saudi. No more pussy-footin' around.


We have had bases in Saudi Arabia practically forever. I can remember my dad being stationed in Saudi Arabia in 1960 and again in 1987.



posted on Jan, 27 2004 @ 05:54 AM
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I already posted this then my thread got deleted.



posted on Jan, 27 2004 @ 07:51 AM
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Originally posted by THENEO
We had him all the time? I doubt this, despite the fact he was a friend of the US in the past I see no logical reason or evidence to support this.

For example the war could have been shortened and less lives lost and less expense with higher public opinion if Saddam was caught sooner in my opinion. Certainly a more desireable outcome for the US forces but it could not be done. Saddam was on the run.

What surprises me most is that he did not leave but it does make sense when you are the world's most wanted man and most talked about. It would be impossible for him to hide for long anywhere else.


Don't take my word for it. Do the research. It's true.



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