Originally posted by Gorman91
Actually, China is smart. Wouldn't you be suspicious if the Chinese revolution happened at out of no where a 6th of the pop went atheist?
...ok, you're just saying things here, but you have nothing to back this up.
And the would had had more atheists before.
Before the adoption Christianity in Rome, it could be very well said that most people were either atheists or agnostic in the Empire, as the religion
was so corrupted by the state that no one believed. The practiced it as the Emperor said to, but no one really cared.
no, most people believed in tribal gods because they couldn't explain things...
16% atheist would mainly be in Europe also, I forgot that one. And for that matter, the pattern applies there too.
10-20% of america is atheist.
that's 30-60 million of the people right there.
and it's not a "pattern" it's people legitimately being atheists. you're acting as if theism should be the norm.
After they go under from the Muslims or socialists or whoever is coming in next, they will have a religious revolution.
....you really don't understand europe. it's MOSTLY socialst. one of the parties in power in the current german government is the christian
socialist party. sweden is 80+% atheist and a SOCIALIST country. you're confusing communism and socialism here
...and what makes islam worse than christianity?
both religions work from books that praise killing unbelievers and oppressing women.
It is highly likely that the Extremist Muslims will take over (as they have begun to) and then force everyone to submit to their way.
wow, you REALLY don't know europe. extremist muslims are FAR from being able to take over here...
This will cause a revolution and moderate Islam will become the mainstream religion in Europe. Or possibly the Muslims and Christians will form
their own separate joined religon, as the Sikhs did in India, or some other groups have done in Africa.
that is highly unlikely. the most likely possibility is the current downward trend of religion in europe will continue until it reaches a breaking
point and there is a counter-revival of religion among a small part of the population and an extreme hastening of the trend of secularism.
The point is, China is smart, they smudge the numbers a bit here and there. But hey, currently Buddhism and Christianity or on the rise there. They
say China will be the most religiously devote people in the world within 50 years.
you've made 3 points. 1 is quite evident (though china's christianity is a religion run by the government...) but the other 2 are a bit...
who says they'll be the most devote?
where do you have evidence that they fudge the numbers?
In any case, the pattern keeps. Wars come closer, forces people to abandon religon, war happens, people unite and either return or form new religions,
then a balance off happens.
you are quite ignorant to world history. we're experiencing an unprecedented level of atheism, agnosticism and secularism in the world. something
that has already broken the pattern.
we're in the middle of half a dozen wars in the world, people aren't uniting and going back to religion... hell, it's the religions that are
starting some of the wars.
Religion always wins, as that Buddhist guy said in the quote a few posts ago.
...no, it doesn't.