Originally posted by Gorman91
Hey guys, if you don't what religious people to hate you, let them enjoy their religion and post it up on the walls.
...well, it depends on the walls. if it's the walls of a government building, i think i need to step in and bring up that they are in violation of
the bill of rights.
if you stop making it look like you're oppressing them, then they will like you.
honestly, we're 10-20% of the population, anyone thinking that 10-20% of the population is oppressing 70% of the population is just not thinking
Win their hearts through better actions.
atheist poster boy bill gates has been doing things through better actions... nobody seems to care.
they say atheists don't build hospitals, that's because they're too busy feeding whole countries.
Fact remains that in this country, the masses hold control.
actually, i'd say that those that hold money and feed the masses information hold control
And because the Mases are religious, then they hold it out. The reason why 60-75% of the nation hates gays, atheists, etc is simply because they
broadcast their stuff on the streets, and they don't like it, so they hate the persons in questions.
so your dislike trumps my freedom. to be free i must not exercise my freedom.
freedom is slavery?
I know, it's a win lose situation and atheists lose because no matter what they do, Christians wont like them, but that be the way it is.
yay... bigotry is just the way it is. let's make no attempt to stop it!
If atheists respect others, respect is shown at them, it they don't, then likewise.
...most atheists are as respectful as any other group and we're disproportionately law abiding in the states... yet we're still demonized.
Their is a bias against atheist is the US and that's true, but if you don't bad mouth the ones bad mouthing you, then within 2 month's time,. you
shall have respect. You must beat the bias in order to win respect.
...we don't bad mouth people. we refrain from ad hom attacks, just look at ats. only a few token atheists actually participate in such foolish
behavior, and then they change their tune once they get more used to the boards.
atheists won't get respect. we're quite respectful to others, we're just expected to give an unnatural pass to religious beliefs and aren't
supposed to criticize them... which is odd, because i see christians criticize each other's beliefs all the time.
Fact remains that most atheists bad mouth others for their beliefs. Maybe you guys don't, but most do. And until that changes, most religious people
no, most don't. they bad mouth the beliefs.
show me atheists bad mouthing individuals and i will believe you.
atheists tend to actually know arguing methods, ad hominem attacks are very taboo when you're participating in a real argument.
I may sound unfair, but when you work with the masses, unfair is the major player.
yes, and we managed to overcome it with other things.. why not this one?
Oh yea, 16 % irreligious? probably most are either from China, where the figures are, ahem, altered, or just non religious being that they don't
practice their faith, but still believe in a holy power.
...chinese traditional religion is actually on the chart.
nice little baseless attack on my numbers
no, this chart just represents that there are countries like sweden where 82% of the population is atheist (and it's such a great country to live in,
If any of you were smart, you would win the respect of the masses (being Christian in this nation) by joining them in renouncing radical Islam.
...um, we do.
and we renounce moderate islam
and radical christianity
and moderate christianity
and new age
name a relgion we renounce it
the problem is, we choose to put radical islam on the level it belongs, the same one as radical christianity.
If all faiths, atheists, and for that matter, people, moderate Islam included, renounce the hatred of these foreigners, you will surly all get
yes, let's unite in picking on an easy target while avoiding that the real issue isn't RADICAL religion, it's just regular religion.
The best way to convert is through peace, words of Jesus himself. Also this:
he and his dad really have a disagreement on this stuff. jesus seems to be mellow.. his dad asks for genocides and burns cities to the ground
"If you go into a village, and they hate you and through stones at you, clean your feet, and leave"
Maybe that isn't exact, but close enough.
yes, let's leave a secular democracy because some people have the idiotic idea that it's christian theocracy (notice that idiotic is modifying idea
here, not people)
nevermind that many of the founders were deists
the problem is that you're expecting the victims to change
don't like segregation? go with it, and eventually you'll be allowed in the white folks...
that's essentially the same argument you're giving us.
[edit on 9/27/07 by madnessinmysoul]