Pilot's saw the ORBS over Lake Erie as well!

Pilot's saw the ORBS over Lake Erie as well! Here is the link to a Zip file containing a Mp3 of the actual communications between 2 flights over Cleveland Ohio, Air Shuttle 5959 and Masaba 3179 regarding a UFO that was spotted by both planes on February 28, 1996.
www.aliensthetruth.com...

Highlights of Pilot's Testimony....

" Maybe and ah...sort of ah...pulsating light about, I don't know, ten miles out. "

"Yeah, that's where I saw it. A really bright white light, sometimes flickering...ah..."

"That's affirmative and it's a light that kinda...it goes dim and it gets bright. I don't know if we're getting closer to it or what? But it looks like a rotating light around it like ah..."

"Ah...we have some kind of white light out there at twelve o'clock and the captain ah...says it's pulsating. It looks like oncoming traffic. But it's just sitting about the same place that it's been the whole...here about ten or fifteen minutes we've been watching it."
"I don't know. I mean we can see a clear, you know, relatively solid cloud deck...ah...below us and this is definitely ah...distinct whitish ah...well, now it's looking a little red and greenish white, sort of pulsating light and it's consonant. It's not a beacon."

"Yeah. Hey, be advised we're descending to four thousand feet right now and as we descend through ten thousand feet, that object is above us right now. It is not on the ground. It's about ten thousand feet."

I believe They were witnessing the same objects seen here captured over Lake Erie. The Pilots descriptions match the following recently captured Ufo's over lake Erie video's perfectly.
WWW.youtube/frozenhill


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Famous UFO Sighting - Cleveland Ohio UFO
The following is a transcript of the communications between 2 flights over Cleveland Ohio, Air Shuttle 5959 and Masaba 3179 regarding a UFO that was spotted by both planes on February 28, 1996.


Audio Recording

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Air Shuttle 5959: Air Cleveland, this is 5959. We see traffic out there. Ah...twelve to one o'clock. Ah...low altitude. Do you have him on the radar?

Cleveland Control: Air Shuttle 5959, that's a negative. Sir, I don't have anything out in front of ya at twelve to one o'clock.

Air Shuttle 5959: Ok...

Cleveland Control: He's down well below you or can you get an estimate on an altitude on him?

Air Shuttle 5959: Well, that could be really difficult. Ah...we're between layers here. I'm just gonna estimate two-three thousand feet below us. Maybe and ah...sort of ah...pulsating light about, I don't know, ten miles out.

Cleveland Control: Ok, Air Shuttle 5959. I'll keep my eyes open. But I don't see anything.

Masaba 3179: Was that northwest of Detroit did you see that light?

Air Shuttle 5959: Yeah.

Masaba 3179: Yeah, that's where I saw it. A really bright white light, sometimes flickering...ah...underneath the clouds is where I saw it.

Cleveland Control: Air Shuttle 5959, is that traffic, ah...that you saw earlier? Do you see him out there any longer?

Air Shuttle 5959: Air Shuttle 5959, that's affirmative and it's a light that kinda...it goes dim and it gets bright. I don't know if we're getting closer to it or what? But it looks like a rotating light around it like ah...like a Frisbee type thing that's going around it.

Unknown voice: UFO.

Cleveland Control: Masaba 3179, do you see the same thing?

Masaba 3179: Ah...sir, I saw it coming out of Detroit and I wondered...ah...all I saw was just a couple really bright flashes of light and it almost looked like lightning and it caught my eye. And then I kept watching it and then it looked a little bit less bright. But it looked like it was underneath the cloud deck to me. And this was just as we were coming out of Detroit.

Cleveland Control: Ok, and can you get an altitude on it at all?

Masaba 3179: The light that I saw was just like, maybe, I don't know...twenty-five miles northwest of Detroit. Is it what you're referring to or you're talking about the light at our twelve o'clock now about ten miles?

Cleveland Control: Any kind of target off to your twelve o'clock?

Masaba 3179: Ah...we have some kind of white light out there at twelve o'clock and the captain ah...says it's pulsating. It looks like oncoming traffic. But it's just sitting about the same place that it's been the whole...here about ten or fifteen minutes we've been watching it.

Air Shuttle 5959: Year, Air Shuttle 5959. It looks like it's almost over Saginaw from our position.

Cleveland Control: Ok, Air Shuttle 5959. Contact Saginaw Approach Control 126.45. I appreciate the information.

Masaba 3179: 3179, that target looks like it's ah...below us. I would guesstimate maybe ten thousand feet.

Cleveland Control: Around ten thousand feet, would you think it might be like a reflection? Ah...maybe perhaps off a beacon that for some reason, it's just one of those weird things. Ah...natural phenomena that you're getting a reflection, cause I got nothing out there.

Masaba 3179: I don't know. I mean we can see a clear, you know, relatively solid cloud deck...ah...below us and this is definitely ah...distinct whitish ah...well, now it's looking a little red and greenish white, sort of pulsating light and it's consonant. It's not a beacon.

Air Shuttle 5959: Air Cleveland, Air Shuttle 5959.

Cleveland Control: Go ahead, sir.

Air Shuttle 5959: Yeah. Hey, be advised we're descending to four thousand feet right now and as we descend through ten thousand feet, that object is above us right now. It is not on the ground. It's about ten thousand feet.

Cleveland Control: Ok, sir. We're checking on it right now. I don't have anything out in front of ya at all I'm showing. I appreciate you coming back to the frequency and letting me know.

Air Shuttle 5959: I'll keep you advised. I tell you what that is weird. It keeps sitting there pulsating.

Cleveland Control: Masaba 3179, where is it relative to you right now?

Masaba 3179: Twelve o'clock sir.

Cleveland Control: I'm trying to do a little investigating as to what this might be. If you would keep me advised on this.

Masaba 3179: Ok, sir. I'm gonna blink my lights at him and see if I can get a reaction. 3179, was the other guy that saw that light was he headed southeast bound or was he headed to (garbled)?

Cleveland Control: Well, he was inbound to Saginaw and actually when I sent him over to Saginaw, I expected that was gonna be the last I heard from him. He came back up on the frequency and advised me that his clearance was down to four thousand and that he said that what he saw, was still up above him and was like a red...he said it was red and green light that was pulsing and like rotating. He said he would keep me advised and give us a report once he got into Saginaw. You don't have a camera on board, do ya?

Masaba 3179: We could probably get one from one of the passengers. You want us to ask?

Cleveland Control: Yeah, that would be kinda interesting to have a couple of pictures. I think...ah...might make our case a little better.

Masaba 3179: Ok, 3179, we got a passenger taking a picture of it right now and ah...we have a flight attendant who says that ah...they might have saw the same thing the other night.

Cleveland Control: Masaba 3179, I copy that. Ah...Masaba 3179, when you flashed your lights, did you get any response?

Masaba 3179: Didn't appear to, sir.

Cleveland Control: Ok, Masaba 3179, I'm gonna send you over to Minneapolis now sir. Is it still on your twelve o'clock?

Masaba 3179: Ah...negative sir. It's at about our two o'clock now. We ah...made a turn.

Cleveland Control: Ok, so it's off your right side about two o'clock. I'd sure be interested to see those pictures. Can I ah...get you an address that you might be able to send a copy, if you get a copy of them?

Masaba 3179: Yeah, sure. We can do that and actually we made a right turn and he's off about ten to eleven o'clock.

Cleveland Control: Ok, so he's off your left side. Ok.

Masaba 3179: Ok, thirty-two-nine. We'll see ya. I wonder if those pictures will show anything?

Masaba 3179: Air Cleveland, Masaba 3179.

Cleveland Control: Masaba 3179, go ahead.

Masaba 3179: I Just want you to know that I took a picture, as captain on the left side. I also took (unrecognizable) of some of the stars above, so the lowest light on those pictures. The only single light at the bottom of the picture should be ah...what you're looking at. And you might be able to get a position with the sky if you want to go that far.

Cleveland Control: Ok, great. Tat's a good idea, I appreciate that.

Masaba 3179: it was an instamatic camera. Good night sir.

Cleveland Control: Good night.

Link to actual Mp3
www.aliensthetruth.com...

Fault lines run right under Lake Erie so this just looks like natural phenomenom to me, even the control center acknowledges this so maybe its not uncommon. Also the video shows these lights and they look just like earth lights.




Earth Lights


[edit on 25-9-2007 by onthefence81]

[edit on 25-9-2007 by onthefence81]

Pilots are (or at least should be ) highly trained people , they fly this route lots of times I guess and if they had no idea what i was then it means they never saw something like that before. Well now as this cant be said it was a cgi hoax lets see what the debunkers think of now ?

Lake gass ? oohh I know i know it was a mass optical illusion caused by the movement of the earth that released unknown gasses ?

no it was a weather baloon that refracted light from venus and caused methane gas to illuminate. thus giving the illusion of an orb. pilots should know this.

neat story. but hardly the proof needed to prove our cause. i believe we are on the right trac but until one lands in the back yard of every person on earth and does larry king live. the majority of people will never buy into what is happening all around them..

There is no proof though! You say pilots are highly trained... And of course they are, to fly Aircraft. You cannot say that a light in the sky is a visitor from the dephs of the universe its nonsense, it could be anything. The pilot didnt say it was moving, he isn't worried in any way. Also the radar picked nothing up so obviously it was not a solid object.

I gave a reasonable explanation but you hardcore ufo lovers won't even give it a minutes consideration... your adament its a UFO allways! Consider the facts, earth lights are proven, flying saucers are not.



[edit on 25-9-2007 by onthefence81]

I like the logic here:
10 years ago there was a possible legitimate UFO sighting between Detroit and Saginaw MI.
Therefore all UFO claims in the area are now valid...
So Forzenthougth’s Erie Lights must be a real occurrence.

No on ever claimed that there have never been UFO sightings in Michigan, or that all were bunk. There was a huge UFO spat there in the 50 and 60’s, and even members of my own family saw the supposed swamp gas. However, this does not validate Frozenthoughts Erie light claims as 1) this recording sounds like it happened near Saginaw approach which makes it the Lake Huron Light or the Saginaw Bay Light, and 2) Frozenthought was shown on flight tracking software that he had filmed aircraft.

Originally posted by DaleGribble

neat story. but hardly the proof needed to prove our cause. i believe we are on the right trac but until one lands in the back yard of every person on earth and does larry king live. the majority of people will never buy into what is happening all around them..

Sadly this would not do the trick unless Britney or Paris said they witnessed a sighting , in which case probably 3/4 of all the sceptics would turn to blind belivers

PS: I know it could be anything at this point and frankly I dont care for this particular sighting as there is no solid proof (besides the testimony of pilots and a wierd youtube video ..) that this was a alien craft. But never the less what me and DaleGribble are joking about is sadly a very depressing truth..

Its not that most people dont belive its that most of the people Don't care at all , they prefer to think what they will wear to the next party on saturday instead of some wierd sighting somewhere in the middle of nowhere .. and thats the sad truth...

I even had a theory about that once , I belived that somehow people are made not to care (kind of hard to explain) , basicly what would be the best way to hide from a massive ammount of enteties (humans in this case ) , well make them ignorant of you..