Originally posted by mikesingh
Here's an excerpt from the same article...
Recalling that the article's in RINF, which has yet to get the basic science correct on anything I've read there...and I was banned about five times
from RINF for correcting them. They are not interested in the truth, particularly.
The last time was over the Boeskov "performance art" piece "ID Sniper Rifle". They had a big "exposé" on this evil new weapon - until I pointed
out it was not only fake, but that Boeskov would gladly appear on RINF to discuss the artistic merit of it, complete with contact info for Boeskov.
We do know Saturn is mostly composed of the same elements as the Sun, hydrogen and helium, but we are unsure if fusion and fission reactions would
work exactly the same on Saturn as on Earth.
Oh, sure we are. The physics doesn't change because it's a different planet. Hydrogen's hydrogen. Electrostatic forces are the same everywhere.
This is bullcrap from Goliathan, who hasn't got a clue.
However, conventional belief says Deuterium and Tritium (isotopes of Hydrogen) are necessary to accomplish fusion.
Righty-o, because these two have the lowest Coulomb barrier.
Both are likely present deeper into Saturn. What is important to remember is the tremendous pressures inside Saturn are the key here when talking
Wrong. Both are NOT likely present deeper into Saturn. Tritium has a half-life of 12.3 years. It does not persist. It does not occur by chemical
combination. Pressure hasn't got crap to do with it. It requires a nuclear process to make it. You can find tritium in stars because there's enough
neutrons that it's constantly being created from hydrogen. But there is no tritium on Saturn, there's no mechanism to create it, and any it had to
begin with has long ago decayed away, so this is an outright lie. Had you started with Saturn being a huge ball of tritium, it would have decayed away
by now - that 12.3 year half-life wreaks havoc with the presence of an element naturally.
As for deuterium, you have to remember that the presence of the extra neutron alters the spectroscopic lines of hydrogen. So you can tell
spectroscopically if a planet's atmosphere is heavy with deuterium, which is statistically unlikely anyway. It will no doubt have SOME deuterium,
because forming deuterium is a statistical process in a cosmological sense - it's likely that the other planets in the Solar system in general are at
least in the ballpark of the proportions you find on Earth, since it all condensed from the same protosolar cloud. This is tempered by the fact that
the deuterium is heavier, and so is slower to be dispersed by Solar wind during the formation of the planets. So you'd expect to find more deuterium
as you get closer to the Sun, relative to hydrogen, and you do. Earth has a D/H ratio of 1:6250, Saturn is more like 1:58000, because the hydrogen
wasn't as preferentially dispersed that far away. So to put it simply, we know how much Saturn has, and it's about 1/10 of the amount you find on
So the premise is that both D and T are present on Saturn. And tremendous pressures too. But this is only conjecture. Heck! What if it's not?
The premise is incorrect. Just as you don't find natural plutonium 239 on Earth due to that 24,000 year half-life, you're sure not going to find
natural tritium that's still hanging around since it was formed, given a 12.3 year half-life.