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Originally posted by apc
A society is people voluntarily working together for the common good.
The moment people are forced, it becomes something else.
1% of your taxes or 1% of your income?
Either way you're not really paying your medical bills. Someone else is. Do you think you have a right to their money?
So this works a bit like our national insurance here in the UK - except NI also covers unemployment benefit.
Every wage earner puts into the pot, and the government runs our health service with the money - and it really doesn't cost much to the individual.
I don't see how anyone can be against this sort of social healthcare - it benefits everyone and there is no opt out.
I read somewhere that the NHS has one of the biggest budgets in the world - larger than that of some countries. OK it has its faults, but what doesn't?
I'd rather spend on this than on keeping some fatcat corporate boss in cigars and mistresses
Originally posted by carewemust
My best advice is to get a high-deductible HSA qualified health plan
and put money in the bank to cover the deductible. Family of 4 in
Illinois is under $250 a month in premium dollars.
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
Is it right that the suit pays for the workers medical? Why yes it is. Just like the worker pays for the suit, and everyone else, and everyone else pays for everyone else.
Ok, your system is more like the irish system where those on low income or unemployed get a medical card which entitles them to free prescritions and dentists etc although medical care is free for all, prescription costs are not.
Can you recommend any links so I can read about it?
Uh no. It is not right to force the anyone to pay for the anyone else's medical bills.
But you have no right to force it on them.
Especially if the mandatory theft is unevenly distributed.
. Someone who makes a hundred thousand dollars a year is no more liable for the care of others than someone who makes twelve.
The health care system in America is just fine. The people are broken. But it's the politicians that are breaking them.
Noone forces people to not have care. They do it to themselves.
You don't complain because you are a leech. You pay a portion of your care costs. Someone else pays the rest. You have no right to their money.
Someone who makes a hundred thousand a year worked their butts off to earn that much.
They deserve every penny of it. They, like I, would feel like the scum of the Earth to let other people pay our bills when we are fully capable of paying them ourselves.
If a poor person robs a rich person at gunpoint to buy food for their family, is that right?
I say that poor person needs to... GET A JOB.
Socialized medicine is armed robbery. The Government is the gun.