The Fifth of November?, page 11
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reply posted on 29-9-2007 @ 11:34 AM by Pfeil
Also, the whole "5th" thing.

I think AJAX.


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reply posted on 29-9-2007 @ 11:40 AM by JacKatMtn
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Very Nice Pfeil!!

I got Jobbed on that Jobs pic, (must look closer.... lol)

What's with the Andreeson fellow, forgive me for not knowing.


reply posted on 29-9-2007 @ 11:41 AM by Pfeil
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en.wikipedia.org...

Marc Andreessen (born July 9, 1971, in Cedar Falls, Iowa and raised in New Lisbon, Wisconsin, United States) is a software engineer and entrepreneur best known as co-author of Mosaic, the first widely-used web browser, and co-founder of Netscape Communications Corporation. He was the chair of Opsware, a software company he founded originally as Loudcloud, when it was acquired by Hewlett-Packard. He is also a cofounder of Ning, a company which provides a platform for social-networking websites.


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reply posted on 29-9-2007 @ 11:43 AM by JacKatMtn
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thanks that NING thing is the key "social networking" I think.

The 5th, could it be the 5th stage of ATS evolution?

ezboard, xmb, etc.......


reply posted on 29-9-2007 @ 12:01 PM by Pfeil
Well, it seems as though Web 2.0 has something to do with all this.



en.wikipedia.org...(programming)

The core justification for Ajax style programming is to overcome the page loading requirements of HTML/HTTP-mediated web pages. Ajax creates the necessary initial conditions for the evolution of complex, intuitive, dynamic, data-centric user interfaces in web pages—the realization of that goal is still a work in progress.


Basically its kinda like many of googles features like google maps, you can zoom in without having to refresh the whole page, like you had to in the olden days. Google calendar, you can switch to any date without having to load up a entire new page. You can check em all out if you dont know what Im talking about.

I hope this is truely a revolutionary change.

The suspense is terrible, I hope it will last.


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reply posted on 29-9-2007 @ 12:32 PM by Jbird
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Also from The 2005 Year in Review MOVIE

I still watch that every once in a while, for a bit of nostalgia.


reply posted on 29-9-2007 @ 04:29 PM by Copernicus
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Its only a matter of time before they will claim that since the Internet is used by terrorists, it threatens the national security, and must therefore be controlled better.

The Real ID is probably going to be used to identify yourself on the internet about 2 years after Real ID becomes the norm for identification in society. Then people will claim that "we use it every day, why not on the internet" just like they today claim that "the new passports already have the rfid chip, whats the difference with the real id?". You have to get the sheep used to the idea, then they will embrace it as a convenience.

Internet is the only reason why the truth about 9/11 came out so easily to so many people. Its the only free one to many communication there is. Of course they are going to control it as soon as they think they can get away with it.

Its a gradual process. They have to do it a little bit at a time, otherwise people will notice how more and more things are being taken away from them.

Without the Internet though, we would not have had a chance to even discuss these matters. We would indeed be buying what the press told us, never questioning anything. So it was a good plan by the powers that be, but they failed to take the free Internet into account.

Lets see how long it takes for them to "fix" this.



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reply posted on 29-9-2007 @ 04:33 PM by Beachcoma
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They're already pushing that agenda. You just have to look at some of the crap they show on Nat Geo these days, shows like "The New Al-Qaeda" and other such stuff.

Guess what, powers that be? We're not buying it.


reply posted on 29-9-2007 @ 05:10 PM by queenannie38
Originally posted by Copernicus
Without the Internet though, we would not have had a chance to even discuss these matters. We would indeed be buying what the press told us, never questioning anything.


The ability to question and reason is not given by virtue of the internet; it is something that all humans are born with. Before there was the internet, there was the public library. And there are other ways to investigate, as well - the internet just makes it so much more convenient.

But the spark of the true and final age of enlightenment has been ignited - probably with the dawning of the industrial revolution and the age of scientific discovery - but probably long, long before that - regardless of when that spark first twinkled into life, the blaze it kindles is INEVITABLE. Just as a glowing match ember, carelessly tossed into a wastebasket full of paper, smolders unnoticed until it becomes a blaze...so does the liberation of humanity!

So it was a good plan by the powers that be, but they failed to take the free Internet into account.


I don't know what your citizenship is, but I am a citizen of the United States of America and as such am guaranteed both freedom of speech AND religion. And I would literally give my life in defense of that freedom - whether in actual revolutionary combat or a life-long defensive struggle.

And yes, I do often consider that one day that very thing might be required of me. And if it is, I will do what is right. I will defend the US Constitution because I truly believe in it...I despise political poison but am a patriot, through and through.

Which means I will NOT be silenced! Even after the death of the speaker, words live on. Especially if they are sincere and true. This is one thing no human being can change!

The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country.

Men without hope, resigned to despair and oppression, do not make revolutions. It is when expectation replaces submission, when despair is touched with the awareness of possibility, that the forces of human desire and the passion for justice are unloosed.

Laws can embody standards; governments can enforce laws — but the final task is not a task for government. It is a task for each and every one of us. Every time we turn our heads the other way when we see the law flouted — when we tolerate what we know to be wrong — when we close our eyes and ears to the corrupt because we are too busy, or too frightened — when we fail to speak up and speak out — we strike a blow against freedom and decency and justice.

~ Robert Francis Kennedy


Lets see how long it takes for them to "fix" this.


It's not broken. Truth ALWAYS wins, in the end. Many people likely will judge that as an idealist statement, but I am a realist. And I have been in more than one extreme situation that proved that there is no greater weapon against lies and deceit than truth AND integrity!
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